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DO NOT DISCUSS SEX WITH ME

 
 
JGoldman10
 
  1  
Sun 4 Dec, 2011 04:23 pm
@firefly,
I want to FINISH the research- do you have any advice about dealing with that? Do you have any advice about how to act on foreign culture sites so that I don't get in trouble?
firefly
 
  2  
Sun 4 Dec, 2011 04:52 pm
@JGoldman10,
Quote:
I want to FINISH the research- do you have any advice about dealing with that?

It's unending, JG. You'll always find some excuse to do more research.

You either have to be able to start actual work on a comic book, using only the research you have already done, or give yourself a firm deadline--like a month, to have it all done. Then make a schedule for actually working on the comic book itself, stages/steps to be completed, with firm deadlines for each of them, and STICK TO IT!
Quote:
Do you have any advice about how to act on foreign culture sites so that I don't get in trouble?

Stay away from them until you get your first comic book completed.

You are already looking for too many details of foreign languages, cultures, etc. and those things are really not going to significantly enhance your comic book, but searching, endlessly, for more of them, will keep you from doing your comic book at all. The buyer of a comic book wants a good plot, interesting characters, and good artwork--and none of those things should require 9+ years of extensive research to accomplish. Settle for what you already know, and concentrate on just getting the comic book actually done.

JGoldman10
 
  1  
Sun 4 Dec, 2011 04:54 pm
@firefly,
PLOT ideas, CHARACTER ideas, CULTURE and LANGUAGE is a big part of it. I said I plan on getting all of this research done over the next few months.

I am going to foreign culture sites to conduct this research - do you have any advice on how to act on there so that people won't assume or accuse me of trolling?
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JGoldman10
 
  1  
Sun 4 Dec, 2011 05:08 pm
@firefly,
I ALREADY had started research on foreign culture and language- why should I abandon that? I want to complete that.
firefly
 
  2  
Sun 4 Dec, 2011 05:28 pm
@JGoldman10,
Quote:
I am going to foreign culture sites to conduct this research - do you have any advice on how to act on there so that people won't assume or accuse me of trolling

First see if you can answer your own questions by doing a Google search.

If you do go to sites, just ask your questions and thank people for responding. Do not go on and on asking more questions.

DO NOT MENTION--Religion, the Bible, sex, race, or anything not directly related to the questions you are asking about a specific language or culture.
Quote:
I ALREADY had started research on foreign culture and language- why should I abandon that? I want to complete that

Because you are not writing a 900 page historical novel or 900 page work set in another culture. I have a friend who wrote a best selling one of those, in fact, she wrote several, they required extensive research on her part, she completed all of them in considerably less time than you have been doing "research" for your one comic book.
Give yourself one more week to do "research" then stop. Otherwise, since you apparently suffer from OCD, the "research" will be endless. You need self-imposed deadlines to get something done.
JGoldman10
 
  1  
Sun 4 Dec, 2011 06:32 pm
@firefly,
If I had ALL THE REFERENCE MATERIAL AND THE RESOURCES I WANTED OR NEEDED right now in front of me, and GOT ALL OF MY LANGUAGE QUESTIONS ANSWERED then that wouldn't be a problem. I have RAN into issues with getting what I need to get my research done and getting my materials developed- that is what the hold up is.

I was on a forum ASKING questions related to race- you were allowed to discuss that and not be racist- I was not trying to be racist.
blueveinedthrobber
 
  2  
Sun 4 Dec, 2011 06:34 pm
@JGoldman10,
JGoldman10 wrote:

If I had ALL THE REFERENCE MATERIAL AND THE RESOURCES I WANTED OR NEEDED right now in front of me, and GOT ALL OF MY LANGUAGE QUESTIONS ANSWERED then that wouldn't be a problem. I have RAN into issues with getting what I need to get my research done - that is what the hold up is.

I was on a forum ASKING questions related to race- you were allowed to discuss that and not be racist- I was not trying to be racist.


that's RUN into issues....better do a little more reading.
JGoldman10
 
  0  
Sun 4 Dec, 2011 06:37 pm
@blueveinedthrobber,
RAN is past tense.
JGoldman10
 
  1  
Sun 4 Dec, 2011 06:38 pm
@JGoldman10,
JGoldman10 wrote:

If I had ALL THE REFERENCE MATERIAL AND THE RESOURCES I WANTED OR NEEDED right now in front of me, and GOT ALL OF MY LANGUAGE QUESTIONS ANSWERED then that wouldn't be a problem. I have RAN into issues with getting what I need to get my research done and getting my materials developed- that is what the hold up is.

I was on a forum ASKING questions related to race- you were allowed to discuss that and not be racist- I was not trying to be racist.


Fixed.
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JGoldman10
 
  1  
Sun 4 Dec, 2011 07:40 pm
@firefly,
Right now I need to focus on getting a little mini portfolio together. I need someone's help and this person thinks I don't have any artwork made up - I want to show this person I am serious about my artwork- I have more questions for this person.

I also need to focus on getting digital art programs- that is what is going to help me right now.
firefly
 
  1  
Sun 4 Dec, 2011 08:41 pm
@JGoldman10,
Quote:
I also need to focus on getting digital art programs- that is what is going to help me right now.

So ask someone to get you something like this for Christmas. It comes with some digital art softwear--Corel Painter Essentials 4.
http://www.corel.com/corel/product/index.jsp?pid=prod3720122&cid=catalog20038&segid=500004
And there are coupons for Corel products on the Web that you can use on the Corel Web site. You can easily find one by Googling that will give you another 20% ($26) or $20 off this $130 item. So, the final price would be about $104.

Corel also has various deals on Corel Painter 12. I just bought that as a Christmas gift for someone. It retails for $429, I bought it on a Black Friday sale on the Corel Web site for $249, plus I used a 20% off Corel coupon I found through Googling, so it was $199, with no tax and free shipping. Had I waited for Cyber Monday, they had it for $249 plus a $50 gift card to use on their products, and I probably could have used the 20% off coupon with that. Now it's selling on their site for $359, I think, so I did pretty well buying it when I did.

You really only need one digital art program to get you started, for the type of work you want to do, and that Corel combo tablet/pen/software deal which you can get for $100 seems pretty good.
JGoldman10
 
  0  
Sun 4 Dec, 2011 08:56 pm
@firefly,
I do need a Wacom pad and pen. I need to get Quarkxpress, Photoshop, Illustrator and Flash. I am looking for a copy of Creative Suite that is around 200$ or cheaper.

For months I have been saying I would like to get some reference books for Christmas.
firefly
 
  1  
Sun 4 Dec, 2011 09:27 pm
@JGoldman10,
Quote:
I do need a Wacom pad and pen. I need to get Quarkxpress, Photoshop, Illustrator and Flash. I am looking for a copy of Creative Suite that is around 200$ or cheaper.

You really don't need all those other programs just to get started.

Why not get the Wacom pad and pen with the free Painter Essentials 4 software, for $100 on the Corel site, start using it, and then figure out what else you really need? You are better off learning with only one program, like Painter Essentials 4, and mastering it, then you will know what to get next. You won't find a better deal than that one for around $100.

With Corel Painter 12, for instance, you do not really need Photoshop, it incorporates elements of PhotoShop, so you might decide to move up to something like Painter 12 as a next step after you master the Wacom tablet and pen and some simpler software. Corel Painter 12 is pretty state-of-the-art, and covers just about everything, but it's also rather complex. You are probably better off starting with something a little easier to master and working your way up. The person I bought Painter 12 for has been using the Wacom pad and pen for a while, so he was ready to move up to more complicated software.
Questioner
 
  2  
Sun 4 Dec, 2011 09:29 pm
@JGoldman10,
JGoldman10 wrote:

I do need a Wacom pad and pen. I need to get Quarkxpress, Photoshop, Illustrator and Flash. I am looking for a copy of Creative Suite that is around 200$ or cheaper.

For months I have been saying I would like to get some reference books for Christmas.


How about you just 'settle' for a Wacom tablet and Photoshop CS4 or better. You don't need all of those other programs to draw comics. Then you'll have 3 less reasons to put off actually accomplishing something.
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JGoldman10
 
  1  
Mon 5 Dec, 2011 12:33 am
@firefly,
I need Photoshop. Flash is used to make 2-D animations with.
blueveinedthrobber
 
  1  
Mon 5 Dec, 2011 01:39 am
@JGoldman10,
JGoldman10 wrote:

RAN is past tense.


you lose on this son....accept it.
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firefly
 
  2  
Mon 5 Dec, 2011 01:57 am
@JGoldman10,
Quote:
Flash is used to make 2-D animations with.

Aren't you the one who didn't want to do animations? Rolling Eyes

Isn't that why you shifted to cartooning?
Quote:
I need Photoshop.

You can live without Photoshop right now, you really don't need it yet. You need a Wacom tablet and pen more--and to get them with free Painter Essentials 4 software for $100 is a great deal and it would help you to get immediately started with digital art--the Painter Essentials apparently includes very good tutorials..

You'll never get anything done, JG, you find more reasons for stalling than there are fish in the sea. It's probably a huge waste of money for you to buy anything, and your family probably wouldn't want to waste their money by buying you any of these things as gifts.
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MontereyJack
 
  2  
Mon 5 Dec, 2011 02:04 am
Jason, how did people create comics before 2000? How did all the classic artists create them? How did Marvel, DC, Disney, become major names? They didn't use computers. They didn't need thousands of dollars of graphic programs. Those programs didn't even exist. They used pencils and pens and paper. You don't NEED any of that stuff. You WANT it. You WANT to waste more years of your life trying futilely to get someone to give you the money to buy your TOYS, not your TOOLS, your TOYS, and then waste more years learning to use them. Stop screwing around. DRAW your damned comic, don't graphics tablet it.
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MontereyJack
 
  2  
Mon 5 Dec, 2011 02:31 am
Have you googled "Christian comic book publishers"? I did, and I got a lot of hits, for example:
http://www.headpress.info/
Have you gotten in touch with some of them? Have you asked them for their guidelines for submissions? Have you asked them about what kinds of material they're looking for? (each house will be looking for different things). Have you inquired about their pay scale--what they may be willing to divulge of it?
firefly
 
  1  
Mon 5 Dec, 2011 02:34 am
@MontereyJack,
He claims he wants to self-publish his comic book.

You do realize we've both been talking to a wall, don't you?
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