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U.S. Spends Too Much on Military

 
 
H2O MAN
 
Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2011 05:14 am

Rolling Eyes China tells the U.S. that it spends too much on military.

I bet Barry 'he's kind of a dick' Obama will quickly move to weaken the US military before the rest of the world agrees with China.

Didn't Germany and Japan also complain about how much the US spent on it's military during WWII?
 
kuvasz
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2011 09:43 am
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Fido
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2011 09:57 am
@H2O MAN,
If you can't figure that out on your own without China telling you it is true then you really are dense... Just as with Rome, the price of our military is killing us and our economy, and yet we do not have a prayer of collecting our profits in foreign lands without it... So, we are damned for the rich for whom we are making the world our enemy...If they were forced to pay for what only they benefit, they would be more careful with their money... It is because we are forced to pay because we have no choice that we suffer as we do...
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raprap
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2011 11:06 am
@H2O MAN,
??? Waterdude, again you've eclipsed my already low expectations of you.

BTW the logic you've presented in the thread heading post post is called a tautology.

Just something else I learned in a public school.

Rap
Gargamel
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2011 11:15 am
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:


Rolling Eyes China tells the U.S. that it spends too much on military.

I bet Barry 'he's kind of a dick' Obama will quickly move to weaken the US military before the rest of the world agrees with China.

Didn't Germany and Japan also complain about how much the US spent on it's military during WWII?


Surely bringing home the troops Bush exhausted via an illegal war and successfully executing the real enemy qualifies as "weakening" the military.

That's like saying removing the excess water in the salt tank weakens your EcoWater system, right, dork?
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2011 11:15 am
@raprap,
FapFap, do you have a point to make?
raprap
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2011 11:25 am
@H2O MAN,
Nothing more than you have demonstrated with you own ignorance of logical development.

As for the military budget--yes. My question would be why has the US appointed itself to be the worlds cop and why does the US continue to fund very expensive weapons systems that are tactically questionable on the asymmetric battlefield?

Spend money on gropos, not $100+ million supersonic fighter jets that are quickly obsolete and ineffective.

Rap
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Foofie
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2011 11:43 am
We spend money on the military, so we can honor our commitments in the world that in 1945 changed drastically, after Enola Gay took off.

That genie cannot be put back in the bottle. Conventional forces, and expensive conventional forces, is the only way to prevent some wise ass nation from thinking they too have the right to let another genie out of the bottle.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2011 11:45 am
@Foofie,
Foofie wrote:

We spend money on the military, so we can honor our commitments in the world that in 1945 changed drastically, after Enola Gay took off.

That genie cannot be put back in the bottle. Conventional forces, and expensive conventional forces, is the only way to prevent some wise ass nation from thinking they too have the right to let another genie out of the bottle.


Yes, yes and yes.
Fido
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2011 03:18 pm
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:

Foofie wrote:

We spend money on the military, so we can honor our commitments in the world that in 1945 changed drastically, after Enola Gay took off.

That genie cannot be put back in the bottle. Conventional forces, and expensive conventional forces, is the only way to prevent some wise ass nation from thinking they too have the right to let another genie out of the bottle.


Yes, yes and yes.
Wrong... The object of force is not to use it, and not to have to use it... Once it is trown into a situation it is tied up for years at great cost... Frederic the Great said it best: If you try to hold everywhere you hold no where... We are reaching the point of holding no where, and having shot our bolt for no substantial gain... The fly wins everytime he gets the man to swat at air and that is what we have been doing..
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RABEL222
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jul, 2011 12:45 am
@Foofie,
Are you related to waterman? You post and think alike. Not a good thing by the way.
Fido
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jul, 2011 05:14 am
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:

Wrong.
Considering all the places in the world where China once wrote CHINA on the map, it would seem we would want an intact military to counter their ambitions, if they should try to exercise them... Instead, because we do what we do without thought, fighting ideological wars instead of logical wars, and doing it on borrowed money from the Chinese, we now find ourselves at their mercy, having to consider what they say as relevent as it never was before... We have to do better, and think harder before commiting our military where it does not belong... We should, for example, never stay where we do not have a military target...To do so is to make a target of ourselves without a good purpose...People have figured out the art of war in great detail before, but we think having ultimate force gives us the ability to not follow set and understood knowledge on the subject... Moi Set Tung said: war is the destruction of the enemy and the preservation of your self... We have destroyed our military without destroying the enemy... We cannot possibly be as stupid as our military acts...
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jul, 2011 05:49 am
@kuvasz,
And what countries military is 1st on the scene with relief aid when disasters strike around the world?
What country has the military machine that can pull of a raid like the one that ST6 pulled of when they took out OBL?

Finally, what ignoranus thinks any of the worldwide capabilities the US military has available comes cheap?


Shrink the US military and the world becomes a less safe place.
Fido
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jul, 2011 07:15 am
@H2O MAN,
Explain why it was necessary to stay in Iraq, and Afghanistan for so long??? We are leaving broke without having accomplished the missions for which we went... No one should use a big beautiful army like ours to hold space and give others target practice... Take it, and leave it until they get the idea that what ever they come up with will have to suit us to some degree... Ho Chi Minh was right.. It is not about winning or losing, but about political accomodation... We have shot our bolt, and now must leave and what you are seeing is the tide of American power receding all because the cost of it is so outrageous.... Why does it have to be so technologically advanced??? Why, if the goal is worthy does such high profits have to be made by contractors??? It isn't about necessary war... It is about feeding people money from the public purse so working people will have to work that much harder to survive -and pay taxes...
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jul, 2011 07:37 am
@Fido,


We happen to like playing in the sand box, it gives us a chance to
help those in need while honing our skills @ killing Islamic terrorists.


It's a win-win for everyone.


I just wish they would remove the rules of engagement and let
our warriors do what they are trained & equipped to do best.
Fido
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jul, 2011 07:54 am
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:



We happen to like playing in the sand box, it gives us a chance to
help those in need while honing our skills @ killing Islamic terrorists.


It's a win-win for everyone.


I just wish they would remove the rules of engagement and let
our warriors do what they are trained & equipped to do best.
We got a bunch of rag heads with no more than their backs and mules for transport bleeding us because they are willing to put their lives on the line for what is important to them... What is the point for us??? If we had left we could have come back ten times for the price of staying once, but our leaders feared there would not be the political mandate for it later... But leaving and letting them form up, and letting them make a great big fat target of themselves is what we wanted... How would you fix what we got as opposed to what we want with changed rules of engagement... You want to kill them all and let God sort them out??? You want to expand the war into Pakistan, or Iran??? We can't handle the war we got let alone the war you want.. And America does not need any immoral wars to blacken our faces in the eyes of the world... We are to many a saten, or the criminal of the world..
Ionus
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jul, 2011 08:02 am
Compared to Europeans who not only wont defend their own interests but wont even spend the money on their own military, yes, the USA spends too much on its Military .
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jul, 2011 08:02 am
@Fido,
Why do you ramble on so much?
raprap
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jul, 2011 08:23 am
The military budget largely ignores the sage advice of Sun Tzu--wars are not won with fancy and expensive weapons systems--wars are won by the will of the people.

That alone is not consistent with an inflated military budget.

Rap
 

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