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Farmed Salmon More Contaminated than Wild

 
 
Piffka
 
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Reply Sat 10 Jan, 2004 07:51 pm
Walter Hinteler wrote:
Deep frozen Pacific salmon was cheaper than fresh 'normal' farmed Norwegian today here.


What kind of Pacific salmon? King aka Chinook is usually pretty expensive, but silvers are inexpensive. There's a certain technique to carefully defrost a frozen salmon. I sometimes set it in milk, which removes some of the "fishy-ness" but my preference is for fresh fish, of course. Which did you buy?
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Piffka
 
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Reply Sat 10 Jan, 2004 07:52 pm
Walter Hinteler wrote:
Deep frozen Pacific salmon was cheaper than fresh 'normal' farmed Norwegian today here.


What kind of Pacific salmon? King aka Chinook is usually pretty expensive, but silvers are inexpensive. There's a certain technique to carefully defrost a frozen salmon. I sometimes set it in milk, which removes some of the "fishy-ness" but my preference is for fresh fish, of course. Which did you buy?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 11 Jan, 2004 02:40 am
Didn't buy any - just saw/noticed that, Piffka.
(And I don't think that the kind is/was noted; besides, it's sold in 'handy' pieces, noz the whole fish.)
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Sun 11 Jan, 2004 11:18 am
I was really surprised to hear on the news that the tinned salmon is wild. Will wonders never cease.
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Piffka
 
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Reply Sun 11 Jan, 2004 12:14 pm
Yeah, that's what the Sierra Club article said too, because the farmed fish doesn't pack well. The only reason I can think of for not packing well is the farmed salmon is mushy. (Which makes it even less appetizing.)
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 11 Jan, 2004 12:17 pm
It's the first time, I've heard of tinned salmon.
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eoe
 
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Reply Sun 11 Jan, 2004 12:21 pm
Good grief! I hadn't even thought about that. I make salmon croquettes at least twice a month using canned salmon. Fresh Pink Alaskan salmon. It doesn't say on the can whether it's wild or farmed tho.
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Piffka
 
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Reply Sun 11 Jan, 2004 02:21 pm
Only Atlantic salmon is farmed, but they should probably mention that it comes from wild salmon on the cans. I'll bet that is going to become a big selling point after this.

Walter, I'm surprised there is no canned salmon in Germany, I'm pretty sure I saw it in Scotland. I don't think I've ever bought any, except when it was smoked & then canned. My dad used to catch so much that he'd have some privately canned. That was an interesting industry... I expect there are still some private canners around.
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hamburger
 
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Reply Sun 11 Jan, 2004 02:25 pm
walter : do you mean to say that you have NEVER heard of tinned salmon before .. .. or not in connection with the wild/farmed debate ? i'd say many canadians wouldn't have anything to put on their sandwich if tinned salmon where no longer available. hbg
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 11 Jan, 2004 02:37 pm
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hamburger
 
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Reply Sun 11 Jan, 2004 08:10 pm
walter : yes, i do remember "seelachs" . also recall that my dad would get canned whale-meat when the whalers came back from antartica. he would usually bring it back from the motherships when they arrived back in hamburg - that was before the war, of course. i'm not really sure how it tasted, but it must have been pretty good because my dad would never get any food that he did not like, and he was particularly fussy about any fish. i remember that carp always had to be fresh and alive when he bought it - no frozen fish for him . hbg
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 12 Jan, 2004 04:10 pm
Quote:
Euro backing for Scottish salmon

The European Commission has moved to reassure the public that Scottish farmed salmon is safe to eat.


Brussels said it was standing by its guidelines after US researchers claimed that the fish contained cancer-causing chemicals.

The study, published in the journal Science, said people should eat no more than two ounces of Scottish farmed salmon each month.

But an EC spokeswoman the recommended limits were satisfactory.

But an EC spokeswoman the recommended limits were satisfactory.


Beate Gminder spoke on behalf of Health and Consumer Protection Commissioner David Byrne.

She said: "We agree with the assessment made by the UK Food Standards Agency that the levels in our European salmon do not exceed EU limits."

Salmon production


She said things like consumption levels were taken into account when setting maximum daily levels for dioxins.

The commission believed that the limits, which had been based on scientific advice, were "accurate and valid".

"These have not been exceeded by European salmon production," said Ms Gminder.

Her views were backed by food expert Professor Hugh Pennington, an adviser for the Food Standards Agency:
"The evidence is pretty clear that the officially recommended levels, which are higher than the ones that the scientists are talking about, are actually safe " Professor Hugh Pennington

The FSA has stressed that the dioxins and PCBs found in the study were within safety levels set by the World Health Organisation and European Commission.

The latest research was carried out by scientists from six research centres in the United States and Canada.

The FSA has urged people to keep eating salmon despite the findings, which were dismissed as "misleading" by the salmon industry.

Prof Pennington said that a lot of work had been done on working out safe consumption levels for dioxins.

He said it was impossible to completely avoid the chemicals, which occur naturally in the environment and are found in many other foods.

Recommended levels

"What the consumer has to do is make a balanced judgment," he said.

"It is a balance between one group of scientists being ultra, ultra precautionary and the official bodies, which have traditionally had problems in getting their message across with trust because of things like BSE.

"But I think that in this one the evidence is pretty clear that the officially recommended levels, which are higher than the ones that the scientists are talking about, are actually safe."

He said there was a "fundamental difference" with the "rather optimistic" advice which was offered on BSE in the past.

Big margin

Prof Pennington said that advice had been offered at a time when little was known about the effects of BSE - whereas dioxins had been studied for many years.

"I know that there is a very big margin between the actual levels that people think are safe and the levels that are recommended by the FSA and the US Department of Agriculture," he said.

"They have a factor of 100 built into their recommendations."

He said experts were not taking any risks with public health.

Last Updated: Monday, 12 January, 2004, 16:19 GMT
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/3390051.stm
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Piffka
 
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Reply Mon 12 Jan, 2004 04:59 pm
Two ounces of salmon is not very much. A typical salmon steak is 8 ounces; most recipe serving sizes range from 4 ounces for smoked salmon to 8-10 ounces for a fillet. I think restaurant servings maybe even larger.
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