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Why do atheist try to convert Christians

 
 
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sat 9 Jul, 2011 02:44 pm
@BillRM,
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No? The religion right in the US tend to try to rewrite history to turn all the founding fathers of the country into bible carrying Christians and also claims that is some manner we was set up to be a Christian country based on Christian principles.



You came across very clear that time! You are only talking about resent history just imagine what they did in the far past.
Who knows Jesus could have been a caring person and they put him to death because he did not share their views but we will never know when people lie as they do.

This seems to back up your claim.

BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 9 Jul, 2011 03:18 pm
@reasoning logic,
Here is the Treaty of Tripoli header/foreword sign off by the US Senate at a time where there was still founding fathers siting in that body and the President was John Adams also a founding father.

Christian nation my rear end.


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Treaty of Tripoli 1797


As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion,-as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen,-and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 10 Jul, 2011 04:19 am
@reasoning logic,
To quote Mr. W S Burroughs,

'If you're doing business with a religious son of a bitch GET IT IN WRITING. Because his word doesn't mean ****, not with the good lord telling him how to **** you on the deal.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 10 Jul, 2011 05:39 am
@izzythepush,
It is sad when people can not be trusted and when you have religious people that are not honest that should make you question how honest the writers of the bible were and religious leaders.

Some religious people are very honest but they are the sheep that have been led astray believing that the bible is the absolute word of God and blinded to its faults and only seeing the good that it has in it.

These are the people that do not question their own belief.

izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 10 Jul, 2011 06:18 am
@reasoning logic,
The Bible is primarily a political document designed to entrench the Emperor Constantine in power, and guarantee the influence of Rome long after the fall of the empire. What is as important as what went into the Bible is what was left out. Gospels by Timothy, Thomas Mary Magdalen (perhaps pronounced Maudlin). Unlike Matthew Mark and Luke these some of these gospels were written by people who were there, as opposed to someone who knew a guy whose best friend's grandfather used to work with a bloke that had been to the sermon on the mount.
BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 10 Jul, 2011 06:34 am
@izzythepush,
There is zero indication that any of the religion writings in or out of the bible was created by people living at the time of the so call events of "Jesus" life.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 10 Jul, 2011 06:47 am
@BillRM,
There is a bit of a debate about whether or not John was there, I remain agnostic on the issue. Most of the New Testament is down to Paul.
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Ionus
 
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Reply Sun 10 Jul, 2011 07:12 am
@Arella Mae,
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Sneer at how stupid religious people are?
Thats correct. Atheists love to sneer at religious people .

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to treat human beings in the manner that you do.
Exactly how do I treat human beings ?
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Ionus
 
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Reply Sun 10 Jul, 2011 07:12 am
@tenderfoot,
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Your statement above proves to me .... you are a lot more than delusional
Proving to you that the world is flat would not be difficult .
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 10 Jul, 2011 07:14 am
@BillRM,
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There is zero indication that any of the religion writings in or out of the bible was created by people living at the time of the so call events of "Jesus" life.


If there were indication would this make the bible any more convincing? If the bible was close to being completely true that would be another thing. I do think that there is some truth in it but it is very hard to distinguish.

I can find value in the bible but I can also see the animals [mean spirited evil people] that we are in it as well.

Thank that we are bad now? "one just needs to read the bible as if it were a true book and use the moral judgement of today and you can see that God was a psychopath and if you cant then you have been blinded or you are a psychopath as well at least this is the way I see it.

This is not meant to be mean because my mother is a believer but I do think that there is something wrong with her thinking. Do not get me wrong she is a kind person just blinded by the lies of society!
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Ionus
 
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Reply Sun 10 Jul, 2011 07:15 am
@Arella Mae,
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you have a filthy mouth
JUST SHUT UP!
BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
You are on ignore.
I won't even see your posts anymore.

How do you treat people ?
Ionus
 
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Reply Sun 10 Jul, 2011 07:16 am
@igm,
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For atheists to doubt and investigate that doubt
You mean agnostics .
Ionus
 
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Reply Sun 10 Jul, 2011 07:20 am
@izzythepush,
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'If you're doing business with a religious son of a bitch GET IT IN WRITING. Because his word doesn't mean ****, not with the good lord telling him how to **** you on the deal.
Then why were Muslims and Jews such successful traders ?
Ionus
 
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Reply Sun 10 Jul, 2011 07:22 am
@izzythepush,
This post is so full of garbage I dont know where to start except to say you are now the worst historian here .
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 10 Jul, 2011 07:25 am
@Ionus,
You do have a good point there but to be fair to Arella Mae I think that we all fail at this.

It soooo easy to see faults in other people but it is much harder to see our own. Them dam emotions seem to get in our way!
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thack45
 
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Reply Sun 10 Jul, 2011 07:36 am
@Ionus,
Ionus wrote:

Quote:
you have a filthy mouth
JUST SHUT UP!
BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
You are on ignore.
I won't even see your posts anymore.

How do you treat people ?
Funny. When I click on @ Arella Mae, I don't see the post that you've quoted above.
Ionus
 
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Reply Sun 10 Jul, 2011 07:38 am
@thack45,
http://able2know.org/topic/173591-17#post-4659490
and
http://able2know.org/topic/173591-18#post-4659690
thack45
 
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Reply Sun 10 Jul, 2011 07:39 am
@Ionus,
Ionus wrote:

Quote:
'If you're doing business with a religious son of a bitch GET IT IN WRITING. Because his word doesn't mean ****, not with the good lord telling him how to **** you on the deal.
Then why were Muslims and Jews such successful traders ?
Because the above mentioned quote had nothing to do with Muslim and Jewish traders
thack45
 
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Reply Sun 10 Jul, 2011 07:41 am
@Ionus,
That's not the same quote you posted.
Ionus
 
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Reply Sun 10 Jul, 2011 07:42 am
@thack45,
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doing business with a religious son of a bitch
It said religious...arent Muslims and Jews religious ?

I take it you dont need to get it in writing if he is an Atheist ?
 

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