Laden Shot with WHAT???

So a mass murder who love to be shown in tapes with weapons and firing weapons did not have a firearm in reach in his private living area??

a bullet, i think

If you are at point that Navy Seals are coming after you, I don't think that having a pistol under your pillow is going to do much good. Your best hope is not being found.

I bet they had pretty big bombs at the ready if the raid didn't work.

Does anyone know the armament
of the CIA or the Seals who shot Laden ??
Laden was allegedly firing "an automatic weapon" presumably an AK 47.

I heard that he allegedly was shot 2ice
in the left eye; that might suggest the probability
of a .223 caliber M-16 or a 9mm MP5 submachinegun. I dunno.

Has anyone heard ?





David

Like I said, that was just my own thoughts, IF I had to use a pistol for some reason...

Most believable reports indicate the seal team was using M4s which is probably what BinLaden was shot with. My understanding of an M4 is it's basically a high quality M16 with a fast twist barrel which can shoot 80-gr bullets instead of the normal 55s.

Panetta told "PBS NewsHour" that bin Laden "made some threatening moves" that "represented a clear threat to our guys" but was not more specific about what the unarmed terrorist did as the commandos engaged others at the compound in a firefight and burst into their prey's room.

"I don't think he had a lot of time to say anything," Panetta said. "It was a firefight going up that compound. ... This was all split-second action on the part of the SEALs."

Panetta underscored that Obama had given permission to kill the terrorist leader: "The authority here was to kill bin Laden," he said. "And obviously, under the rules of engagement, if he had in fact thrown up his hands, surrendered and didn't appear to be representing any kind of threat, then they were to capture him. But they had full authority to kill him."

After they shot him in the head and chest, the SEAL team in just minutes quickly swept bin Laden's compound for useful intelligence, making off with a cache of computer equipment and documents. The CIA was hurriedly setting up a task force to review the material from the highest level of al-Qaida's leadership.

The documents provide a rare opportunity for U.S. intelligence. When a midlevel terrorist is captured, his bosses know exactly what information might be compromised and can change plans. When the boss is taken, everything might be compromised but nobody knows for sure.

The revised account of bin Laden's final moments was one of many official details that have changed since he was killed in the nighttime raid early Monday morning in the Pakistani city of Abbottabad. The White House misidentified which of bin Laden's sons was killed — it was Khalid, not Hamza. Officials incorrectly said bin Laden's wife died in gunfire while serving as his human shield. That actually was the wife of a bin Laden aide, and she was just caught in crossfire, the White House said Tuesday.

White House Press Secretary Jay Carney attributed those discrepancies to the fog of war, saying the information was coming in bit by bit and was still being reviewed. Nevertheless, the contradictory statements may raise suspicions about the White House's version of events, given that no independent account from another source is likely to emerge. The only non-U.S. witnesses to survive the raid are in Pakistani custody.

Five people were killed in the raid, officials said: bin Laden; his son; his most trusted courier, Abu Ahmed al-Kuwaiti; and al-Kuwaiti's wife and brother. The latest White House account leaves open the question of whether there was any gunfire from bin Laden's defenders in his room before the commandos shot him.

was going out of a long-enough barrel to get some velocity

In some hostage situations, they use low powered weapons so they dont get a bullet going through a bad guy and hitting a good guy...even after a ricochet high powered rounds leave a nasty mark....and people have been wounded by flying bone.....it all depends on whether there are hostages and if the baddies are wearing vests, etc...

Oralloy wrote:

was going out of a long-enough barrel to get some velocity

Its the explosive power that gives it the velocity...the barrel length and rifling improves accuracy .

Does anyone know the armament
of the CIA or the Seals who shot Laden ??
Laden was allegedly firing "an automatic weapon" presumably an AK 47.

I heard that he allegedly was shot 2ice
in the left eye; that might suggest the probability
of a .223 caliber M-16 or a 9mm MP5 submachinegun. I dunno.

Has anyone heard ?





David

You need the long barrel of the rifle to contain the pressure behind the bullet long enough for it to accelerate to rifle velocities.

it was a 7.62 mm bullet.

Oralloy wrote:

You need the long barrel of the rifle to contain the pressure behind the bullet long enough for it to accelerate to rifle velocities.

You dont need a long barrel, you need a barrel long enough

and there are degrees of burning speeds for gunpowder.

Even with a short barrel, most of the explosive force has already acted on the bullet .

True, a standard round in a standard barrel length probably makes a slight bit of difference to speed, but to someone without a vest at close range the effect is negligible . The bullet is still supersonic and I wouldnt want to be hit by one at long range either .

Flash suppressors are for the elimination of flash . Any contribution they give to velocity is very minor .