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Do You Care if US Forces Unloaded 100+ Bullets into Bin Laden?

 
 
Reply Wed 19 Mar, 2014 11:18 pm
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Initial reports claimed two shots were fired to kill bin Laden. While that number climbed in later reports, the claims of "over a hundred bullets" would suggest a level of savagery and, as SOFREP puts it, "self-indulgence" not admitted in prior accounts of the operation. SOFREP notes these actions would violate the Laws of Land Warfare and build on a disturbing trend of alarmingly brutal military behavior that includes graphic evidence of U.S. troops burning and urinating on slain enemy combatants.

But an extreme degree of violence would explain why U.S. President Barack Obama's administration was so resistant to release a set of photos, for fear of a possible backlash against U.S. interests.

Judicial Watch, a conservative watchdog group, sued the administration for access to the photos last year, claiming there was "no apparent nexus" between U.S. intelligence activities and the images of bin Laden's burial or preparation for burial at sea. A federal appeals court ultimately ruled the CIA did not have to release any of the photos.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/13/osama-bin-laden-death-shooting_n_4958147.html

Gates claims that he saw photos, and did not want them published because he feared incendiary photoshopping. He also says that in the days after the event those photos passed out to senior Obama Administration members were picked up by the CIA so that they would never get out. Allegedly not a single pick is not in CIA hands, and they probably destroyed what they had.


Fear of Photoshop/evidence of yet more illegal acts by US Forces....which one sounds more plausible to you for why the bagged game was never presented in photos?? Why his body was secretly dumped at sea?
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Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Thu 20 Mar, 2014 01:52 am
@hawkeye10,
Hyped up Special Forces are well known for their excesses in situations like this, so I'm not surprised to hear that it happened. My discomfort is aimed more towards the moron(s) who let this information leak, and with the motive behind the leakage.

Nothing to really be proud of and certainly nothing to be boasting about, now it's out.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 20 Mar, 2014 10:53 am
@Lordyaswas,
It is not established yet that it happened but it is consistent with other immoral procedures that have been established from US forces since 9/11. I also think that if Bin Laden was pumped with over 100 rounds that he would consider it a win, as his objective was to bring us down to his level.

Elite forces committing illegal acts is to me worse then reserve prison guards committing illegal acts, this would be bad if true.
Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Thu 20 Mar, 2014 11:07 am
@hawkeye10,
We had the same rumours going around about our Paras and SAS.

I won't give them any more airing here, but the only thing that sort of helps me understand those people is the training they have to go through to get into those regiments.
These guys have to undergo god knows what, and are actually encouraged to be a law unto themselves, with no fear or squeamish factor tolerated.

The Paras actually aim towards creating "bloody havoc" (their words) when they are in this sort of snatch/hit squad scenario. The more chaos and fear they can stir up, the better.

The SAS are just out and out nutters when in action. They are specifically handpicked for those sort of qualities. What on earth those guys do when on the job, god only knows....but it must be said that they normally keep a tight lid on their comings and goings.

In the end, we train these guys up to be human pitbulls, so should not really be surprised when they go overboard.

hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 20 Mar, 2014 11:11 am
@Lordyaswas,
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In the end, we train these guys up to be human pitbulls, so should not really be surprised when they go overboard.


My wife is 26 years in the Army, I am surprised here. We train these guys to follow orders and that includes to follow rules of engagement which always follow laws, so when I see US forces acting illegally I am disappointed. This would be an especially upsetting case here if true.
Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Thu 20 Mar, 2014 11:19 am
@hawkeye10,
Dead of night, low fast helicopters over potentially fanatic infested suburbs (borderlands, Pakistan....not a nice place to get caught)...massively important target...exceptionally high profile and the pressure that brings....possible small army guarding him....

I think I would cut those guys a bit of slack. I would also imagine that they've been well and truly dealt with by their superiors, especially considering that the President happened to watch the whole thing on live TV, and probably put him off his pizza.

Those lads have more guts than me, that's for sure.
tsarstepan
 
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Reply Thu 20 Mar, 2014 11:21 am
@hawkeye10,
http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/345/6/4/sara_yawn_gif_by_mikiyoshiuzuki-d4iuwu8.gif
Hey JTT. It's so good to see you active on this site. Rolling Eyes Sorry Hawkeye. Wrong person. I could have sworn this was a JTT conspiracy thread.

How's the Zen Socialism AKA the oxymoronic highly-conservative UberTea Party-suckup philosophy (you created for yourself) treating you these days?

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Do You Care if US Forces Unloaded 100+ Bullets into Bin Laden?

Don't care. Five bullets = 100 bullets. Dead is dead. I'm sure Bin Laden didn't feel any pain after a certain point. How much did you cry when you heard that Bin Laden was killed? He's your soulmate right? Oh! Dang! I once again confused you for JTT.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 20 Mar, 2014 11:52 am
@Lordyaswas,
According to gates the White House had no video for the first 15 minutes in the house, they got static till someone radioed in the kill. Total time in the house was 45 minutes, most of it to gather letters (and computers?) for the spooks to analyze.
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