@contrex,
Oh, I'm sure you're right, contrex, but I was only reporting on the English I know, that which is spoken in these United States. I would never try to guess what the speakers of English elsewhere, and there are so many versions of English worldwide, might or might not use.
Two of my best friends speak English as a second language. They both speak Spanish, but one is from Spain near the Pyrenees and the other is from the mountains of Peru. It's really fun to hear them argue
in English about what the Spanish is for something. Not what is proper, (that's always useless) but what words are used.
We should have that kind of discussion here amongst the speakers of the multitudinous varieties of English.
Joe(later)Nation