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The meaning of "give much for"

 
 
Reply Sat 19 Mar, 2011 09:15 am
"I wouldn’t give much for a country where there are no wildernesses left."
What does "give much for" mean here?
Does it mean that I don't like or I don't think highly of?
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engineer
 
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Reply Sat 19 Mar, 2011 09:22 am
@Justin Xu,
It means "value highly". "Give much for" directly means "pay a lot for".
McTag
 
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Reply Sat 19 Mar, 2011 04:41 pm
@engineer,

I think it's misleading to think of monetary value. The phrase should be more general in meaning.

"Value highly" or "rate highly" is better, imho.

"I wouldn't give much for your chances"....i.e. You have little hope of success.
Setanta
 
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Reply Sat 19 Mar, 2011 05:35 pm
I agree with McT here--the meaning of the phrase every time i've encountered it was not about money, it was a figurative meaning, that one would not rate something very highly, or consider it very probable. I would also note that i don't believe i've ever seen it in any but a negative context.

"I wouldn't give much for his chance of winning" means i don't think it's very probable that he will win.

(Edited)
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JTT
 
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Reply Sat 19 Mar, 2011 10:27 pm
@McTag,
I think that Engineer made that distinction, in les, ummm fewer words, McTag.
fobvius
 
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Reply Sun 20 Mar, 2011 04:21 am
@JTT,
Decidedly careless.
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McTag
 
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Reply Sun 20 Mar, 2011 04:50 am
@JTT,

You just can't pass up a chance to try to correct people, even when no correction is necessary.
You are a silly billy.

I was referring to this sentence of Engineer's:
Quote:
"Give much for" directly means "pay a lot for".


It could be misleading to a learner if a literal meaning is suggested, I thought.
Okay?
JTT
 
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Reply Sun 20 Mar, 2011 10:18 am
@McTag,
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It could be misleading to a learner if a literal meaning is suggested, I thought.
Okay?


In this particular context, yes, Engineer could have stated specifically that the idea didn't entail a monetary element, though that meaning is certainly available for other situations.

I wouldn't give much for that old jalopie.

But mostly my response was intended as a joke, McTag. You didn't get it?
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sun 20 Mar, 2011 10:34 am
Not much of a joke. Setanta and McT have it right.
McTag
 
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Reply Sun 20 Mar, 2011 10:36 am
@JTT,

I am aware of the stereotype opinion that irony is not common in the US.

And, I am conditioned to the viperish reply from your direction.

But okay, my bad.

My book has not arrived yet. And I've nearly finished colouring in the one I've got.
JTT
 
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Reply Sun 20 Mar, 2011 10:44 am
@MontereyJack,
Engineer wrote: It means "value highly". "Give much for" directly means "pay a lot for".

E's first sentence describes the meaning in this specific instance. His second sentence describes the literal meaning that this collocation has in other circumstances.

Yes, McTag and Setanta were also accurate in their descriptions but that doesn't mean E wasn't.

EDIT: I take some of that back.

"the meaning of the phrase every time i've encountered it was not about money,"

This is nonsense. It hardly has just a figurative meaning.
McTag
 
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Reply Sun 20 Mar, 2011 10:51 am
@JTT,

Please note, crossed posts. Pleasantries from me are worth looking for.
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JTT
 
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Reply Sun 20 Mar, 2011 09:41 pm
@McTag,
Quote:
And, I am conditioned to the viperish reply from your direction.


I don't mince words.

Quote:
But okay, my bad.


I've noted that you tend towards the fair, McTag.
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McTag
 
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Reply Mon 21 Mar, 2011 05:47 am
@JTT,
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"the meaning of the phrase every time i've encountered it was not about money,"

This is nonsense. It hardly has just a figurative meaning.


I don't agree. It obviously has a literal meaning, but in my experience it is almost never meant literally.
In common, one might say, with many other stock phrases.
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engineer
 
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Reply Mon 21 Mar, 2011 06:06 am
@JTT,
Thank you for the defense and I got the joke. Smile
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