military action against Libya

I don't see any signs that Clinton is driving the policy team anywhere else or even that she is treated as a trusted advisor, but suddenly she is the decider on foreign policy?

but the French guy said with trained ground troops the civil war in Libya would be over in a 'matter of days'

He also said he's recently been in Libya, met the opposition leaders, and they're all ok guys.

Since the US has no business being there in the first place, using ground troops in any capacity, even as advisors, would be a huge mistake.

Asked whether the U.S. would provide troops, Ham said, "I suspect there might be some consideration of that. My personal view at this point would be that that's probably not the ideal circumstance, again for the regional reaction that having American boots on the ground would entail."

President Barack Obama has said repeatedly there will be no U.S. troops on the ground in Libya, although there are reports of small CIA teams in the country.

U.K. Defense Secretary Liam Fox has also been involved in the lobbying, calling his counterparts across Europe, one defense official said.

British officials said the calls have been coordinated with the French. This has been a "double tap" effort with France, in which the two nations take turns calling other European ministers, the defense official said. In Paris, French participation in the effort to persuade other governments to commit forces couldn't immediately be confirmed.

Both Britain and France have already sent in more ground attack aircraft and the U.K. has announced the conversion of some Typhoon fighters to a ground attack role.

But both countries' armed services face pressures. The U.K. is stretched by its commitments in Afghanistan, where it has 10,000 troops, and has begun cutting its defense budget because of austerity measures. France's military is also stretched. It is sending more troops to Ivory Coast, which is descending into civil war, and has 3,500 soldiers in Afghanistan.

British officials have expressed frustration that the U.K. is bearing a disproportionate burden among Europeans. "We don't want another example in which they can just do the soft end of the things and a select few are doing the kinetic stuff," the defense official said.

British ministers often complain that only a handful of NATO countries take risks in Afghanistan.

If we already have boots on the ground, the Obama administration lied to everybody

If we already have boots on the ground, the Obama administration lied to everybody.

ot CIA-types who are most likely disguised to blend in with the general population of a particular country.

The U.S. government runs two drone programs. The military’s version, which is publicly acknowledged, operates in the recognized war zones of Afghanistan and Iraq, and targets enemies of U.S. troops stationed there. As such, it is an extension of conventional warfare. The C.I.A.’s program is aimed at terror suspects around the world, including in countries where U.S. troops are not based. It was initiated by the Bush Administration and, according to Juan Zarate, a counterterrorism adviser in the Bush White House, Obama has left in place virtually all the key personnel. The program is classified as covert, and the intelligence agency declines to provide any information to the public about where it operates, how it selects targets, who is in charge, or how many people have been kille

Read more http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/10/26/091026fa_fact_mayer#ixzz1IsWsCzVE

IK, Obama didn't say "boots." He said "no ground forces."

since most of the profit (as interest )we make is not allowed to them of other Muslims... They can loan it to us, but who is going to collect???

Where are your loyalties, honestly, if you have the honor to say???

You have never served your country

The only reason people will kill one of their own for honor is because where they are they cannot live without it

It is no wonder that the oaths of western society are empty formality...