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Gender and Violence

 
 
Reply Sun 13 Mar, 2011 05:44 am
Men: How far would you have to be pushed by a woman to get physical? Perhaps a better way to ask this is how much additional tolerance (if any) exists towards women?

Women: At what point would you expect a man to be hit? What would they have to do to summon an aggressor to act physically violently to them? How would the situation change in your opinion if you we're either person (the provocateur or the striker).

I don't want to suggest that any person ever deserves to be hit, and I don't condone violence. I'm simply curious at what people tolerate and how their gender (and the gender of others) affects their tolerance of actions or willingness to engage physically.

If you were punched in the face, you may react in any number of ways:

a) punch them back
b) run away
c) other

Before you make any choice/decision do you evaluate their gender or do you simply react the same no matter who it is?

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djjd62
 
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Reply Sun 13 Mar, 2011 05:53 am
i have never hit anyone, even after being hit (by both men and women)
failures art
 
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Reply Sun 13 Mar, 2011 06:02 am
@djjd62,
djjd62 wrote:

i have never hit anyone, even after being hit (by both men and women)

It's a theoretical question. I'm not asking if you already have hit someone.

How far would you have to be pushed to hit anyone? Or would their be different points based on the gender of the other person?

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djjd62
 
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Reply Sun 13 Mar, 2011 06:10 am
@failures art,
i don't think i would, it's hard to be theoretical (for me anyway) if the situations have already occurred, i was probably as angry as i've ever been both times, the women i walked away, the guy i grabbed and wrestled to the ground, pinned him until we both calmed down a bit
dyslexia
 
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Reply Sun 13 Mar, 2011 10:26 am
@failures art,
I shot a woman in Reno just to see her die.
Ceili
 
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Reply Sun 13 Mar, 2011 10:27 am
It's only acceptable if you are in a life and death situation.
CalamityJane
 
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Reply Sun 13 Mar, 2011 10:33 am
@Ceili,
I agree with Ceili, however, if I ever would get hit by a man I am in a relationship with, I'd probably wait until he falls asleep and get my frying pan out and whack it over his head...
Rockhead
 
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Reply Sun 13 Mar, 2011 10:37 am
@CalamityJane,
this is one good reason not to hit women... Shocked

I have never swung first at anyone, and I don't condone violence of any kind toward women.

(I hate breaking up a cat fight...)

Once I had a woman swinging a weapon at me, and had to hit her with an open hand to stun her and make it stop.

I still feel badly about it....
aidan
 
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Reply Sun 13 Mar, 2011 10:40 am
I have hit both males and females.
Once a guy blocked my way out of his bedroom and I knocked the crap out of him and told him to move or I'd start screaming.

Once a drunk girl grabbed my phone so I couldn't call her mother to come get her - she was as big as me and an adult - and I hit her hand against the window so she'd drop it.

If an adult hits me - I'll hit them back- with absolutely no guilt.

Maybe it comes of being one of six kids and having to learn how to hold your own - but I have no moral problem defending myself.

On the other hand - I'd never even imagine hitting someone when they were asleep-even if they hit me first.
Brandon9000
 
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Reply Sun 13 Mar, 2011 11:37 am
I would never hit a woman under any circumstances except defending my life. About five years ago, my wife got so mad at me that she gave me a shove, but I just walked around her.

I would hit a man any time it was necessary in the situation, but I have to consider the fact that if you hit someone, unless it is the most clearcut case of self defense imaginable, these days you can go to jail and then have a felony record for the rest of your life.
failures art
 
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Reply Sun 13 Mar, 2011 02:46 pm
@Brandon9000,
Let's remove legal implications. That will muddy the conversation.

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failures art
 
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Reply Sun 13 Mar, 2011 02:48 pm
@djjd62,
djjd62 wrote:

i don't think i would, it's hard to be theoretical (for me anyway) if the situations have already occurred, i was probably as angry as i've ever been both times, the women i walked away, the guy i grabbed and wrestled to the ground, pinned him until we both calmed down a bit

This is still an answer on the discrepancy. You were equally mad in both circumstances, but you only got physical with the man. If the experience had been fear instead of anger, would this have changed?

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failures art
 
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Reply Sun 13 Mar, 2011 02:50 pm
@Ceili,
Ceili wrote:

It's only acceptable if you are in a life and death situation.

To use force, or use force against a woman? In other words, is it more acceptable to use force against another man?

Can women use force against men in situations that are not life and death?

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failures art
 
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Reply Sun 13 Mar, 2011 02:50 pm
@CalamityJane,
CalamityJane wrote:

I agree with Ceili, however, if I ever would get hit by a man I am in a relationship with, I'd probably wait until he falls asleep and get my frying pan out and whack it over his head...

Would you give the same advice to a man who was in an abusive relationship?

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failures art
 
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Reply Sun 13 Mar, 2011 02:52 pm
@Rockhead,
When I used to do martial arts and lots of sparring, I faced a dilemma every time I had a female opponent. A few times, I knocked the wind out of them, and even though that kind of thing happens sometimes when sparring, I still felt awful.

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Ceili
 
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Reply Sun 13 Mar, 2011 02:59 pm
@failures art,
I used to know a giant of a man, 6'6'", he started a local abused mens club. He never hit the bitch, but he woke up on several occasions to this women beating him with a garden hose. He always walked away, but like the sisters in similar situations, he always went home.
My ex hit me once, I moved out the next day. I never went back. I packed up the kids and moved in with my parents until I could get back on my feet. It was a terrifying time. None, the less, I didn't hit him back. My new husband knows the drill. He gets one chance, that's it. He'd better make it good or I will be gone again or die. I don't believe violence is ever the answer. If I was attacked, I would hit whoever it was, women or man, but it would only happen if I feared for my life. Otherwise, I would walk/run away. I've seen one too many bar/street fights that ended badly to ever entice me to trade punches with anyone.
failures art
 
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Reply Sun 13 Mar, 2011 03:31 pm
@Ceili,
I'm not picking on you, but it's safe to say you'd not approve if he hit his wife with a frying pan while she was asleep? I don't know how serious you were about retaliation, or if you were just making a joke.

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Rockhead
 
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Reply Sun 13 Mar, 2011 03:47 pm
@failures art,
I have known women that would deliberately provoke a man, in an attempt to make him react to her in a physical way.

alcohol makes people do funny things...
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Sun 13 Mar, 2011 03:57 pm
@failures art,
No! Men are usually much stronger than women and they could defend themselves much better.

The frying pan was somewhat a joke. I probably would not defend myself
physically, but I definitely would leave the situation, consult with the police and an attorney, and press charges. Should I have to move my belongings
from the home, I'd hire a body guard to escort me to the house.
Oylok
 
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Reply Sun 13 Mar, 2011 04:03 pm
@dyslexia,
Quote:
I shot a woman in Reno just to see her die.


Not me ... though I did once roll around with a girl named Sue in the mud and the blood and the beer.
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