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Are you against Christian Sharia Law?

 
 
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 31 May, 2011 05:22 pm
@failures art,
failures art wrote:

I think you'd (Mr. Dubois) learn a lot about your own beliefs if you were to study the eastern expansion of Christianity through the Assyrian church eastward into China.


Well good luck with that.
spendius
 
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Reply Tue 31 May, 2011 05:25 pm
@izzythepush,
He will need more than good luck izzy. He will need at least fifty lifetimes.
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Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Tue 31 May, 2011 05:55 pm
I'm still waiting for someone to show me Sharia Law in the Christian part of the Bible. That would be topic related.
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WendyLou
 
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Reply Tue 31 May, 2011 06:03 pm
@maxdancona,
H2O man, with respect you have missed the point. This is a long reply and an important one. I used to say "why don't the muslims just interrelate with us, why don't they join in, why don't they realise they are safe here and that Australia offers them a peacful country, full of opportunity. Why do the women cover themselves in black shrouds in this heat? All of the questions that all of us wonder inside our heads. I have read Nonie Darwish's text "Cruel and Usual Punishment". You will be enlightened as to why sadly, Sharia is an anathema to any other religion on this planet. Yes, the Christians in the past committed some grave atrocities. The big difference is that Christianity has gone a long way towards learning from those mistakes. I am a female, obviously and do not want any hint of Sharia law in Australia. I do not want Julia Gillard to give any land to a Sharia enclave as has been requested of her. That is just the beginning, like a slow oil slick. I've been debating a person from the United States who converted to Islam and it is almost impossible to get him to "focus" on any particular issue I may bring up, including polygamy, covered women and why they cover up, the sexual rights of men under this law, the subjugation of women under this law. Get back and debate when you have read this book, written by a women who grew up in Egypt and in her mid twenties, remained unmarried but then married a Christian who had to convert to Islam before they could get married in Egypt and before she was "allowed to travel overseas". They then obviously discarded the Islamic religion and she became a Christian because she felt the religion respected women more and was against polygamy and child sexual abuse. One of the activities encouraged under Islamic Sharia is a practice called "thighing". Muslim men are permitted to marry a child of one year in age, take the child and play with it. They start thighing, i.e. placing their private parts between the young six year old girls' legs to get her used to the ultimate wedding night at the age of 9. That is when the marriage is consummated. Muslim men are allowed four wives and a "pleasure marriage for a night", as often as they desire. They are allowed to anally penetrate a baby girl and if they damage her, they are responsible for her. The intent of Islam and Sharia is to totally cover the globe with the Islmamic religion. I have had an education from reading this book, which ironically is 'out of print' but can be obtained throug the internet. Nonie has worked tirelessly to try and educate the West about a serious fact -Islamists believe they are right. They believe every other religion is evil; they believe all people who do not believe in Mohammed, Allah and Sharia, should be exterminated and they believe they will be rewarded for so doing. Today we have in the news the exultation of the Taliban because an Afghani supposed ally soldier of ours, shot one of his teammates and then ran. I have no patience, no desire and no intention of ever supporting a religious cult that is sex based, man power based and actually has dessimated every culture it has taken by force. The West needs to wake up and stop the polictally correct attitude that Islam relies upon to advance. One of the ways we can fight this scurge on society is to find an alternative energy source, that way the oxygen being given to the Middle East in the form of petro dollars would cease and gradually put them back in their box, where they should stay. They are free to practise their religion where it is most compatible. For me, never in Australia and I would die for that belief. Women have worked tirelessly to graduate from the "school" of male total dominance and I believe make better partners for men as educated women. Sharia's aim is not to educate the women within, keep them apart, so they don't form a group to fight against their oppression and generally use them as sex objects. It is absolutey disgusting what is being hidden from the West re intent. The 'so called moderate Muslims' in Australia, should they remain moderate, would be killed under Islamic Sharia, or forced to comply. Most Imams do not tell their subjects in the mosques what the real aim of Sharia happens to be. On an economic point, the petro dollars are what are giving the Arabic nations and Islam power. That's OK, if they used it properly. I am not a religious bigot. I believe in the freedom of every individual to practise what they wish, as LONG as it doesn't interfere with anybody else's. My friend is a school teacher in NSW and there is a directive that Australian children are to learn the Koran, but there is no directive in the opposite direction, i.e. to learn about Judaism, Christianity, Buddhism or any other religious belief. Ask yourself why?
Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Tue 31 May, 2011 06:27 pm
@WendyLou,
Very good points. Education is the answer. The problem is the politically correct left who are determined to put Islam in a protected class and label people who know the truth as ignorant and backwards when it is themselves who are ignorant of Islam. Seems to be a common trait among the arrogant left.
Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Tue 31 May, 2011 06:46 pm
And some more from the religion of peace.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4076176,00.html
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Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Tue 31 May, 2011 06:51 pm
Iranian cartoon for muslim children.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Du638_4NTSI

Hamas cartoon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Eu6_P8rNpk&NR=1
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failures art
 
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Reply Tue 31 May, 2011 08:18 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
Actually, you are making the cultural error, and it is what everyone here has been trying to help you understand. Here's an example. Do you know what Christians in Arab speaking countries call "God?"

They say "Allah."

Your repeated objection to the use of sharia when paired with Christianity attempts to sidestep the entire issue. Beyond that, you don't seem to even know what Sharia law is. You seem to think it's any law in place in a Muslim nation. This is an uneducated conclusion.

Beyond that, I am very concerned in your reluctance to step out of your right-wing echo-chamber. You often use these blogs as your reply, and offer virtually no artifact of free or independent thought. The worst part is that by doing so, you've unknowingly undrmined your own arguments by not fact checking what you are posting. As it has been pointed out, the claims your sources make are not supported by their own annotations. This is a problem. It is shallow thoughtlessness and it's making you look terribly uneducated.

My hope is that you learn to start to apply critical analysis to what you read. You seem to give blind allegiance to right-wing pundits.

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Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jun, 2011 07:03 am
@failures art,
What a steaming pile of BS.
Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jun, 2011 07:37 am
@failures art,
Here is an example of the "cultural error" you are making.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/06/muslim_man_gets_sexual_assault_sentence_reduced_because_of_culture_shock.html
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jun, 2011 07:46 am
@Renaldo Dubois,
Renaldo Dubois wrote:

Very good points. Education is the answer.


Indeed. You're the best example. You've certainly got the facultas docendi in BS.
Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jun, 2011 07:48 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Wow. Simply amazing, Walter. Can I use that quote?
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jun, 2011 07:49 am
@Renaldo Dubois,
Of course. (In full length only)
Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jun, 2011 07:56 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Gee, thanks. All my friends will think I'm as smart as you.
parados
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jun, 2011 08:00 am
@Renaldo Dubois,
I doubt that will happen.

One of 2 things will occur.
1. They won't get it so will think you are stupid for saying it.
2. They will get it and know that you had to steal it from someone else since you couldn't come up with it on your own.

In either case they will give you a hard time by claiming they slept with your sister.
raprap
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jun, 2011 08:44 am
A possible impedious to Rennie's hate?







Rap

Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jun, 2011 09:02 am
@parados,
Save me some of those seeds.
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failures art
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jun, 2011 11:09 am
@Renaldo Dubois,
Renaldo Dubois wrote:

What a steaming pile of BS.

I presented facts to you. I'm sorry if that does not square with the political world-view you've bought in to.

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Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jun, 2011 11:11 am
@failures art,
You presented YOUR facts. You seem to have a difficult time with others who have a different world view than yours according to their facts. You're just going to have to accept this FACT. Americans are not going to accept a culture that is based on 7th century Arab religious tribalism as law in the USA. Saying we are ignorant and uneducated is not going to make your case. FACT.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jun, 2011 11:21 am
@Renaldo Dubois,
Renaldo Dubois wrote:

You presented YOUR facts.


people can make different decisions based on their understanding of facts - but there is no YOUR facts, MY facts. Facts are simply that, facts.

Nothing wrong with people having different world views/opinions. There is something wrong with people who can't accept facts.

this

Quote:
Americans are not going to accept a culture that is based on 7th century Arab religious tribalism as law in the USA.


is an opinion.


I'm not disagreeing with your opinion. Just disagreeing with your presentation of it as a Fact.
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