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Are you against Christian Sharia Law?

 
 
Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Tue 17 May, 2011 08:43 am
@raprap,
You still miss the point. The left treats muslims like a victim class and treat Christians like the oppressor class. That's the point of the OP. The questions is why? Can you answer that, rattrap?
revelette
 
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Reply Tue 17 May, 2011 09:01 am
@Renaldo Dubois,
You start out your questions are on a wrong premise to start with and then ask why the "left" do it.

Who first of are the "left" in your question?

Second, what are you bases for stating that he left treat Muslims like a victim class and Christian (which I am one and I am a left if a left is a democrat with some liberal leanings) as the oppressor class?

Most who argue that some political social conservatives (most of whom are so called Christians) who lump all Muslims with terrorist and extremist are demonizing a religion rather than actions of people. People have tried to make the point that there are people belonging to other religious groups who either have their own private courts and laws or they want to have laws which are religiously based into laws of the US which would make them no different than those Muslims who live in the US who want to have their own private Sharia laws of which I have personally seen little evidence of except in the minds of those aforementioned political social conservatives.

I think as both a Christian and an American citizen that we should simply render under the US government the things which are the government and things which are God's unto God. If we start mixing up it all up into some kind of untastey soup then we get into religious wars of which our country forefathers escaped to America in the first place for.
raprap
 
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Reply Tue 17 May, 2011 09:05 am
@Renaldo Dubois,
Could it be that Xtans in this country tend to be squeaky wheels? No one cries louder than a bully.
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raprap
 
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Reply Tue 17 May, 2011 09:14 am
@gungasnake,
More of rehashed Ganja BS. Haldane rejected the misappropriation of his theory to open thermodynamic systems. Go peddle your ID hypothesis to Ben Stein.

Please market that T-shirt Ganja, but don't forget the copyright watermark---

Rap
gungasnake
 
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Reply Tue 17 May, 2011 09:22 am
@raprap,
The point I was making did not involve Haldane or his dilemma so much as the idea of genetic death. GRANTED the ideas of natural selection and genetic death are bullshit, nonetheless they were accepted in 1930 and that's what Hitler and the others were acting on.

That also was the basis for the eugenics and sterilization programs going on in other countries including the U.S. at the time...
Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Tue 17 May, 2011 09:25 am
@revelette,
I agree. I urge the left then to stop supporting extremist muslims who want to build mosques on sites the majority of the American people want for something else and to stop calling us bigots and Islamophobes when we oppose the muslim agenda.
raprap
 
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Reply Tue 17 May, 2011 09:37 am
@gungasnake,
Stalin ruined Soviet agriculture under Lysenko because 'Natural Selection' didn't agree with his realpolitik. Darwinist Scientists were purged from the universities and research facilities. The soviet union went from Europe's breadbasket to a starving nation in the 60's. Is that what you're suggesting? Ruining American agriculture by the enforced acceptance of a discredited, theologic hypothesis?

http://www.jimloy.com/biograph/lysenko.htm

BTW this is off topic.

Rap

gungasnake
 
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Reply Tue 17 May, 2011 10:00 am
@raprap,
Try to focus your mind a bit better. You'd asked how Germany could produce its geniuses and then Nazism and I explained it for you. I wasn't talking about Russia or communism or Lysenko.
failures art
 
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Reply Tue 17 May, 2011 10:09 am
@Renaldo Dubois,
Renaldo Dubois wrote:

I agree. I urge the left then to stop supporting extremist muslims who want to build mosques on sites the majority of the American people want for something else and to stop calling us bigots and Islamophobes when we oppose the muslim agenda.

What extremist muslims are building a mosque and where? You don't seem to recognize any muslims as not being "extremist," so why use the adjective at all? It probably sounds less prejudicial if you make it seem like you recognize a distinction, but when you say these kinds of things, you are being islamophobic and bigoted.

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revelette
 
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Reply Tue 17 May, 2011 10:25 am
@Renaldo Dubois,
Quote:
I urge the left then to stop supporting extremist muslims who want to build mosques


If they are terrorist suspects then the proper venue to track them is with the intelligence agencies.

Quote:
on sites the majority of the American people want for something else


Also we do not rule on mob rule or else most the civil liberty laws would not be in effect today.

Quote:

stop calling us bigots and Islamophobes when we oppose the muslim agenda.


There is no Muslim agenda except in the minds of folks such as yourself. There are Muslim extremist groups in the US and elsewhere who have an agenda and there are agencies and the US military in place to track them.
gungasnake
 
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Reply Tue 17 May, 2011 10:32 am
@revelette,
Quote:
There is no Muslim agenda except in the minds of folks such as yourself.


You've been on some sort of an island with no communications for how long now?
revelette
 
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Reply Tue 17 May, 2011 10:41 am
@gungasnake,
There is a difference in Muslims and Muslims extremist and it is the latter which do have an agenda of which I pointed out after the quote you posted.
Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Tue 17 May, 2011 10:51 am
@failures art,
Uh, yeah, right. I hope this helps you in your growth.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/05/secularists_or_just_antichrist.html
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Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Tue 17 May, 2011 10:52 am
@revelette,
You edited my post to respond. You lose.
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Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Tue 17 May, 2011 10:53 am
@revelette,
You obviously do not know which is which. That's the left's problem and it is as glaring as the bullet hole in Osama's eyeball.
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raprap
 
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Reply Tue 17 May, 2011 10:53 am
@gungasnake,
A short answer--Germany fell under the cult of a madmen who magnified prevalent religious and economic assumptions and prejudices to foment hate and totalitarianism.

Much like some fundamental evangelistic Xtians are presently being used by certain self-serving individuals. It is an well established political practice to unify people under the guise if religious and race hatred. That is, nothing cements a base better than a common enemy.

Now answer my question---Do you really desire to destroy basic genetics by enforcing compliance with a false hypothesis? Is Ganja a new Lysenko?

Rap
ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 17 May, 2011 10:54 am
@Renaldo Dubois,
If you want people to accept that there's one Muslim agenda, you'll have to deal with some people believing there's a Christian agenda.
Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Tue 17 May, 2011 10:58 am
@ehBeth,
Of course there is a Christian agenda. Do you believe the Christian agenda is a threat to our freedom EQUAL to the Islamic agenda in Sharia Law?

That's the question.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 17 May, 2011 11:00 am
@Renaldo Dubois,
I'm not one of the people who believes there is a single Christian agenda or a single Muslim agenda.

If I thought there was a single Christian agenda, I would be horrified.

Depending on the brand of Christianity I might believe it was a threat to freedom.
Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Tue 17 May, 2011 11:02 am
@ehBeth,
So you do not believe there are any muslims in the USA who are pushing for Sharia Law. Correct?
 

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