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Are you against Christian Sharia Law?

 
 
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Reply Wed 4 May, 2011 04:05 pm
@failures art,
Getting back to ID and Darwinism, here is a must read book.

http://www.signatureinthecell.com/
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Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Wed 4 May, 2011 04:11 pm
@failures art,
You get confused a lot. You really need to work on that. The question is, which fossils are from the first earth and which are from the second earth?
Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Wed 4 May, 2011 04:12 pm
@spendius,
That's true. I hear that the earth is over a billion years old. How long does a fossil stay a fossil?
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Reply Wed 4 May, 2011 04:29 pm
Excuse me. I just checked and according to science, the earth is over 4 billion years old.
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Reply Wed 4 May, 2011 04:34 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
Renaldo Dubois wrote:

You get confused a lot. You really need to work on that. The question is, which fossils are from the first earth and which are from the second earth?

The fossils we have do not show such an odd distinction as you've described. Where did you come up with such an idea?

You did not answer my question. Do you beleive all species came into existence at the same time? Is your assertion that the only change in biology has happened on the micro level?

The fossil record (there is only one) does not support such a claim. Rather we see different species appearing at different times supporting common ancestory.

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Reply Wed 4 May, 2011 04:38 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
Renaldo Dubois wrote:

That's true. I hear that the earth is over a billion years old. How long does a fossil stay a fossil?

A fossil will remain in its mineral stare until enough energy has been applied such that it reaches a point of molecular reconfiguration and then forms a new geometric structure.

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Reply Wed 4 May, 2011 04:54 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
He's all your's Renaldo. He won't talk to me.

He's just trying to justify his rejection of Christianity because it provides restrictions on his carnality. End of story.
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Reply Wed 4 May, 2011 05:32 pm
@spendius,
I've had this hunch from my first encounter with FA that he is a queer. Is that true?
failures art
 
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Reply Wed 4 May, 2011 08:59 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
Renaldo Dubois wrote:

I've had this hunch from my first encounter with FA that he is a queer. Is that true?

I've never been attracted to men. My girlfriend and I have been dating for abotu a year and a half in a week or so. I don't have to be gay to care about defending homosexuals from religious persecution. Is that why you were curious? I'm not sure how this is material to the discussion, but I'm more than happy to share stuff about who I am so you can get to know me better if that's important to you. Do you have other questions?

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Reply Wed 4 May, 2011 09:02 pm
@spendius,
You're not being ignored spendi. Don't mean to bruise your ego. I make sure too read your posts, honest. I simply don't feel the need to repeat myself on questions I've answered (or others have answered) to you multiple times. If you create new questions, I'm sure I'll provide you feedback.

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Reply Thu 5 May, 2011 03:32 am
@failures art,
Quote:
Describe a scenario in which original atheists could have come up with modern western science. Not only does ID theory have to do with science but our science, which is unique, has very little to do with anything else.


Where did you answer that fa?

And I have no ego to bruise.

BTW--there are plenty of heterosexual behaviours which you might have personal reasons to set aside and discredit the Church's teaching on. Which is fair enough but it is not the basis for an intellectual debate.

I'm not convinced that homosexuals are persecuted these days. I find that the irreligious heterosexuals are more bigoted towards homosexuals than Christians are.
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Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Thu 5 May, 2011 07:22 am
@failures art,
I don't see how half the stuff you've said on this forum since I've been here has anything to do with the topic.

What rights do YOU have that homosexuals don't?
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Reply Thu 5 May, 2011 08:01 am
@Renaldo Dubois,
He could get married RD as Christian Sharia would enjoin him to after an 18 month long relationship with a lady who, I presume, is investing her hopes in him in the best years of her life.

What are the objections to Christian Sharia law?
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Reply Thu 5 May, 2011 08:37 am
@Renaldo Dubois,
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What rights do YOU have that homosexuals don't?


Your kidding with that, right?

Which Equal Rights are Denied to Gay People?
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Reply Thu 5 May, 2011 09:01 am
@revelette,
They can get married in 4 states. Same rights I have. I can't marry another man in the same states that they can't either. That means they have the same rights I do.
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Reply Thu 5 May, 2011 11:19 am
@Renaldo Dubois,
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They can get married in 4 states. Same rights I have. I can't marry another man in the same states that they can't either. That means they have the same rights I do.


Bigamy is against the law in the US everywhere. Pretty disingenuous Renaldo. Are male or female?
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Reply Thu 5 May, 2011 11:21 am
@Renaldo Dubois,
Renaldo Dubois wrote:

I don't see how half the stuff you've said on this forum since I've been here has anything to do with the topic.

Well, in this thread in particular, we've been in a discussion talking about the effects of religious dogma on a secular society. That dogma can be Islamic (as is the case of Sharia), or Christian (as is the case in many other places in the world).

Renaldo Dubois wrote:

What rights do YOU have that homosexuals don't?

I can marry the person I love. Marriage is a gate way to numerous other rights.

-visitation
-inheritance
-child custody
-etc

Also, because of DOMA, those states who do allow for same sex marriage licences wont have their documents recognized by other states. This is a direct contradiction of the Full Faith & Credit clause of the constitution. The FFC is what makes a heterosexual couple's marriage (and other things like drivers licenses) recognized in states where they weren't married.

It should also be mentioned that right now is also a turning point in the armed forces, and that finally gay men and women will be able to serve openly very soon. There remains resistance to this, and it is funded by conservative Christian groups.

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Reply Thu 5 May, 2011 02:24 pm
@revelette,
Nothing to do with "bigamy."

I can marry a person of the same sex as me in four states. Homosexuals can marry a man in four states. Now tell me how homosexuals do not have the same rights I do.

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Reply Thu 5 May, 2011 02:26 pm
@failures art,
According to the Declaration of Independence, where do we get our "rights" from?
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Reply Thu 5 May, 2011 02:44 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
Renaldo Dubois wrote:

According to the Declaration of Independence, where do we get our "rights" from?

By the text:

"nature's God" is where we get the power to dissolve political bands, in this case to England.

The unalienable rights we are given according to this document, come from our "Creator."

Why do you ask? Did you have difficulty finding the text? Here, I googled it for you:

http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/declaration_transcript.html

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