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Are you against Christian Sharia Law?

 
 
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Reply Tue 26 Apr, 2011 10:30 am
@parados,
If my neighbor suspects me of being a terrorist, then he has to prove his case. I dont' mind being investigated. I have nothing to hide. Do you?
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Reply Tue 26 Apr, 2011 10:32 am
@Renaldo Dubois,
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Some of the American congress are also Muslim. Two in the House. This is America. We have many nationalities and religions in our congress. You need to get out more.

Yes, but this congress, the 112th, is not the body that put these laws on the books. Their composition would be relevant if new laws were happening right now on this matter.

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Reply Tue 26 Apr, 2011 10:33 am
@Renaldo Dubois,
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Not during wartime.

Is there an official declaration of war?

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Reply Tue 26 Apr, 2011 10:40 am
@Renaldo Dubois,
Renaldo Dubois wrote:

If my neighbor suspects me of being a terrorist, then he has to prove his case.

Correct. What would you call it if your neighbor couldn't prove their case, but you were detained and investigated anyway?

Renaldo Dubois wrote:

I dont' mind being investigated.

Of course you don't. People who won't be asked to surrender their rights, often like to boast about how they'd give them up.

Renaldo Dubois wrote:

I have nothing to hide. Do you?

Nothing. However, that's not the point. You can't discriminate on the basis of race or religion to find out if people might have something to hide. We don't just haul in every white guy we see on the street because while males fit the profile of serial rapists now do we?

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Reply Tue 26 Apr, 2011 10:43 am
@failures art,
Your post has absolutely nothing to do with the point you are trying to make. I see you make this up as you go along. I hate to be the one to tell you this, but your entire point is phoney, dishonest, and a lie. Next.
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Reply Tue 26 Apr, 2011 10:44 am
@failures art,
We are dropping bombs and killing people. That is called war and even your president started one after promising he would never attack a nation that was no direct threat.
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Reply Tue 26 Apr, 2011 10:45 am
@failures art,
Thank you for saying I am correct. Took you long enough.
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Reply Tue 26 Apr, 2011 10:54 am
@Renaldo Dubois,
Renaldo Dubois wrote:

If my neighbor suspects me of being a terrorist, then he has to prove his case. I dont' mind being investigated. I have nothing to hide. Do you?

Why does he have to prove anything? You argued that merely being suspected was enough.
Can people be held without a case being proven against them? You said yes. Now you argue no when it comes to you personally.
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Reply Tue 26 Apr, 2011 11:01 am
@Renaldo Dubois,
Renaldo Dubois wrote:

Your post has absolutely nothing to do with the point you are trying to make.

You pointed towards our current congress, and I'm talking about the laws put in place by previous congresses. The fact is absolutely relevant.

Renaldo Dubois wrote:

I see you make this up as you go along.

You've not provided support for your views on this.

Renaldo Dubois wrote:

I hate to be the one to tell you this, but your entire point is phoney, dishonest, and a lie.

Your opinion.

Renaldo Dubois wrote:

Next.

You concede.

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Reply Tue 26 Apr, 2011 11:07 am
@Renaldo Dubois,
Renaldo Dubois wrote:

We are dropping bombs and killing people.

Be careful, you're flirting with the edge of an ethical cliff.

Renaldo Dubois wrote:

That is called war and even your president started one after promising he would never attack a nation that was no direct threat.

Our President, and I'm sure Obama will pay a political price for Libya. I believe he would face political fall out if he had not acted in some form, but I repeat myself. In terms of political liability, where you are concerned, I'm convinced that no matter what Obama would have chosen to do, you'd have found a way to spin it. I don't need to defend the President's choice. It's not my own. Either way, dropping bombs is war, but not a declaration of war in terms of congress and the powers you claim are granted during war.

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Reply Tue 26 Apr, 2011 11:09 am
@failures art,
Both of the muslims congressmen I mentioned were in the previous congress.

Now you are the one moving the goal posts. You're done here. You're dishonest and a liar. I've given you more than enough of my time. Bye.
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Reply Tue 26 Apr, 2011 11:14 am
Renaldo - You say you have nothing to hide, but you seem very shy about answering other's questions. Why aren't you interested in defending your views? Don't you believe they can stand up to criticism?

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Reply Tue 26 Apr, 2011 11:24 am
@Renaldo Dubois,
Renaldo Dubois wrote:

Both of the muslims congressmen I mentioned were in the previous congress.

Can you provide a record of either of them voting on a bill as we are discussing?

Renaldo Dubois wrote:

Now you are the one moving the goal posts.

You're trying to dodge criticism. Do you not think you can defend your views?

Renaldo Dubois wrote:

You're done here.

You keep saying this in desperation. I'd rather you just answer the questions sent your way.

Renaldo Dubois wrote:

You're dishonest and a liar.

You've not supported this.

Renaldo Dubois wrote:

I've given you more than enough of my time. Bye.

I've given you a great deal of my time as well, and answered your questions in detail. You have not returned the courtesy. It's poor form.

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Reply Tue 26 Apr, 2011 02:53 pm
You proved yourself a liar when you didn't acknowledge that the two congressmen I noted were in the last session of congress. You're a very very dishonest person. No need for any further responses, although I'm sure you need to have the last word so please do so and that will be the end.
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Reply Tue 26 Apr, 2011 03:41 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
Renaldo Dubois wrote:

You proved yourself a liar when you didn't acknowledge that the two congressmen I noted were in the last session of congress.

I did acknowledge them. I also called for you to provide a vote that they voted to do any of the things we have talked about. You have failed to substantiate this.

Renaldo Dubois wrote:

You're a very very dishonest person.

Being that you're omitting the context of our conversation, I do not think you should be calling names.

Renaldo Dubois wrote:

No need for any further responses, although I'm sure you need to have the last word so please do so and that will be the end.

So you've quit. I accept your concession.

Again.
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Reply Tue 26 Apr, 2011 03:44 pm
@failures art,
You are a sick person. You take that for what it's worth, which isn't much. I haven't come across such a self-hating pissant like you in quite a while.
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Reply Tue 26 Apr, 2011 03:46 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
Renaldo Dubois wrote:

You are a sick person. You take that for what it's worth, which isn't much.

I shouldn't take your claim I'm a sick person to be worth very much? Okay.

Renaldo Dubois wrote:

I haven't come across such a self-hating pissant like you in quite a while.

You are fond of insulting other people. You should put less energy into that, and more into researching the topics you discuss.

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Reply Tue 26 Apr, 2011 03:46 pm
@failures art,
You are a sick person. You take that concession for what it's worth, which isn't much. You need the boost to your ego. I haven't come across such a self-hating pissant like you in quite a while.
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Reply Tue 26 Apr, 2011 03:47 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
I thought you were done? Did you change your mind?

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Reply Tue 26 Apr, 2011 03:48 pm
@failures art,
I'm not done. You're done.
 

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