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Are you against Christian Sharia Law?

 
 
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Reply Mon 18 Apr, 2011 10:49 am
@Renaldo Dubois,
Amazing--you even continue the joke....what timing. Jack Benny is tipping his hat from the grave.
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Reply Mon 18 Apr, 2011 10:55 am
@Renaldo Dubois,
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It's a fact. Thousands of muslims are murdering people in the name of Allah and Mohammed.


You can't argue based on facts when you ignore the facts.

- In the US, there are abortion clinic bombings, killings of abortion doctors, homosexuals and racial minorities all done in the name of Jesus.

- In Uganda there is an movement to kill homosexuals including legislation to make killing homosexuals legal. There is a barbaric guerilla group called the Lords Resistance Army.

- In several countries there are Christians groups killing women and children as witches.

- Not to mention the recent genocides of Rwanda and Serbia.

You are ignoring all of the facts that don't fit into your own extremist world view.
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Reply Mon 18 Apr, 2011 11:05 am
@maxdancona,
Those people are as dumb as the muslims are. I think I'll stay away from there. Meanwhile, what are we going to do with the muslims in the USA who are already here and want Sharia Law? What do we do with them? Let them have it?
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Reply Mon 18 Apr, 2011 11:24 am
@Renaldo Dubois,
Renaldo Dubois wrote:

Those people are as dumb as the muslims are. I think I'll stay away from there. Meanwhile, what are we going to do with the muslims in the USA who are already here and want Sharia Law? What do we do with them? Let them have it?

What muslims here that want Sharia law?
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Reply Mon 18 Apr, 2011 02:28 pm
@parados,
How about the crazy **** that wanted the mosque built at GZ in NYC. Let's start with him. You're not getting your mosque at GZ. Accept that fact.

How can you be in a debate about Sharia Law and not know anything about the topic? You and Failures Art are a pair of duces.
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Reply Mon 18 Apr, 2011 05:37 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
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Those people are as dumb as the muslims are. I think I'll stay away from there. Meanwhile, what are we going to do with the muslims in the USA who are already here and want Sharia Law? What do we do with them? Let them have it?


As long as it don't supersede US laws, yes.
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Reply Mon 18 Apr, 2011 06:09 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
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How about the crazy **** that wanted the mosque built at GZ in NYC.


So then, building a church would be an example of Christians who want Sharia law?
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Reply Mon 18 Apr, 2011 06:13 pm
@revelette,
But that's the problem. I could care less if it was only about their religious laws for each other, but that's not what they want. What will happen is they will impose their restrictions of our constitutional right to free speech like they are trying to do in other nations. You will not be able to criticize their religion. The left is so damn stupid they don't even realize what they are supporting.
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Reply Mon 18 Apr, 2011 06:17 pm
@maxdancona,
You're not that stupid and neither am I. It has nothing to do with the constutional right to freedom of religion. Islam is not a religion. It is a social-religious-economic form of government. You can't equate Christianity with Islam. That's why the title of this thread is a lie. You don't want to talk about Islam.
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Reply Mon 18 Apr, 2011 06:55 pm
Here's something interesting about the Peter King hearings.

http://babalublog.com/2011/04/rep-peter-king-is-looking-for-the-fire-under-the-smoke/
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Reply Mon 18 Apr, 2011 07:13 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
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Islam is not a religion. It is a social-religious-economic form of government.


You don't have the slightest idea of what you are talking about. I mean, which country then is representative of this "social-religious-economic" form of government?

The largest Islamic country is Indonesia, a Republican government with an elected parliament. Then there are the Monarchies of Saudi Arabia and Jordan, and the theocracy of Iran.

I think you are full of crap. But I would love to hear how you think these very different countries that range from dictatorships to Monarchies to secular democracies support your very bigoted ideas.

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Reply Mon 18 Apr, 2011 07:16 pm
@maxdancona,
Amazing. Here you sit defending Islam and then you call me a "bigot".

Islam is the most racist, bigoted, hateful religion on the planet. That's not even counting how dreadful they treat their women. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Dumb ****.
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Reply Mon 18 Apr, 2011 07:45 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
Renaldo Dubois wrote:

It's a fact. Thousands of muslims are murdering people in the name of Allah and Mohammed. Who are the Christian groups mudering people in the name of Jesus? Not too many. The world would be a much nicer safer world without Islam.

How does the number of kills compare between:

1) American troops who are Christian in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya
2) Muslim troops anywhere

Which is greater?

Of the following, which is more likely to happen in your own country:

1) Being a Christian killed by a Muslim.
2) Being a Muslim killed by a Christian.
3) Being a Christian killed by a Christian.
4) Being a Muslim killed by a Muslim.

There are correct answers to these questions. It may be information you're not interested in knowing. For starters, compare the fatalities in Iraq between US troops and Iraqi civilians.

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Reply Mon 18 Apr, 2011 07:54 pm
@failures art,
My my, what a hysterical, emotionally wrought argument. Equating American soldiers to the same mind set as Islamic terrorists. I really am concerned about your mental health. Seriously.

Of course there are correct answers to your questions. They are contained in your sick mind. To equate the American soldier who happens to be a Christian to a brainwashed religious nut who is killing civilians for Allah is insane. You really are a very sick person. You need some serious treatment. I hope you don't have any children.
failures art
 
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Reply Mon 18 Apr, 2011 08:20 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
The distinction you make is only a matter of your own rhetoric. The thing is that the same way US citizens would view soldiers from Iraq on US soil as being a Muslim presence, Iraqi citizens view soldiers from the US on Iraqi soil as being a Christian presence. You have this framed in your head in a very rigid way which is preventing you from objective analysis.

The answers are from the previous post that from this conflict, more Muslims have died and more Christians have done the killing. This is not a matter of opinion. This is actual statistics. It's a staggering figure too.

US troops killed: 4,447
Iraqi civilians killed: 101,445 - 109,793

Who is a larger threat?
Who is in the greatest amount of danger and from whom?

Christians don't have halos.

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maxdancona
 
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Reply Mon 18 Apr, 2011 08:45 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
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Islam is the most racist, bigoted, hateful religion on the planet. That's not even counting how dreadful they treat their women. You should be ashamed of yourself.


Are you a Muslim then?
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parados
 
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Reply Mon 18 Apr, 2011 09:25 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
Renaldo Dubois wrote:

How about the crazy **** that wanted the mosque built at GZ in NYC. Let's start with him. You're not getting your mosque at GZ. Accept that fact.
Lets see..
1. There was no mosque being built at GZ. That was crap put out by Christian crazies. And you seem to be more than willing to repeat it.
2. The leader that wanted to build the mosque 2 blocks away and not visible from GZ was hardly crazy. He was a consultant for the FBI.

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How can you be in a debate about Sharia Law and not know anything about the topic? You and Failures Art are a pair of duces.

Perhaps you should wonder how you can debate it when you don't know anything. You seem to live in a different reality from the rest of us. You certainly have a lot of facts that aren't true.
failures art
 
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Reply Mon 18 Apr, 2011 10:09 pm
@parados,
People are still have dumb-ons for this "ground-zero mosque" thing?

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Reply Tue 19 Apr, 2011 02:15 am
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Why do Republicans love Sharia law?

(CNN) -- To be fair, I'm not sure if all Republicans love Sharia law, but they certainly do love talking about it.

Republicans Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, Michele Bachmann and Rick Santorum don't agree on everything, but they all concur that we must stop Sharia law from being imposed upon America.

And Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain, winner of a Tea Party convention straw poll in February, went a step further when he recently declared that he would not even nominate an American-Muslim to his Cabinet because in his words, Muslims "are trying to force Sharia law on the people of this country." (Although to be honest, Charlie Sheen has a better chance of "winning" the 2012 presidential election than Cain.)

Add to this mix Republican state legislators in more than a dozen states who have introduced legislation to ban state court judges from considering Sharia law. And in Tennessee, Republican state Sen. Bill Ketron has upped the ante by proposing a law that would make it a felony punishable by up to 15 years in prison for any person who knowingly supports Sharia law.

To warrant this hysterical call to arms by these Republicans, American-Muslims must certainly be aggressively pushing for Sharia law to be imposed upon all Americans -- which would be an especially amazing feat considering only about 2% of our nation's population is Muslim.

Sharia is a system of law based on the tenets of Islam. Certain Republican politicians have claimed that American-Muslims want to replace our Constitution and system of law with Sharia. So I went to see which American-Muslims are calling for this.

I started out simply enough by asking the Muslims in my family and my Muslim friends if they wanted Sharia law to be the new law of America. After they stopped laughing, they all responded "no."

This isn't surprising to me because I have never met an American-Muslim who has commented: "America is great, but you know what would make it even better? More laws like Afghanistan."

OK, then maybe it's the American-Muslims in elected office? In their positions of power, they could easily propose legislation calling for Sharia law.

First stop, the two American-Muslim representatives -- Keith EllisonVideoand Andre Carson.VideoBut both their records are devoid of pushing for Sharia law.

Well, then maybe it's the American-Muslim state legislators who serve in places such as New Hampshire, Missouri, Michigan and North Carolina -- including the longest-serving Muslim state-elected official, Larry Shaw, who has been a member of the North Carolina General Assembly for 16 years. Maybe they're the ones hankering for Sharia law? But alas, I came up empty.

Oh, I know, how about Dearborn, Michigan, the city with the highest concentration of Muslims in America? If there is any place in America that wants Sharia law, it has to be there. However, Dearborn Mayor Jack O'Reilly -- clearly a very Muslim name -- said in an interview last year: "There's no Sharia law in Dearborn, Michigan. ... It isn't even talked about in Dearborn."

Avlon: Colbert, Kyl and spread of "misinformation"

I keep striking out. Then it occurred to me, perhaps Sharia law is part of the agenda of the biggest American-Muslim organizations in the country: the Council on American-Islamic Relations and the Islamic Society of North America.

So I reached out to the Islamic Society of North America's national director, Sayyid Syeed, and the Council on American-Islamic Relations' national outreach coordinator, Aseel Elborno, and asked them point-blank: Do you want to impose Sharia law across the United States? Their answer: a resounding "no." They explained they simply want to be able to practice their faith just like all other proud Americans. Nothing more.

This is now getting confusing. My Muslim friends and family members don't want Sharia law, neither do the Muslim elected officials nor the biggest American-Muslim groups -- not even the people of Dearborn. Then who is furthering this dastardly plan?!

The best evidence these Republicans cite in support of their claim is a case from New Jersey where a trial judge sided with a Muslim man who had raised Sharia law as a defense to the charge of marital rape. The state that brought us "Jersey Shore" actually brought us something worse with this court decision. However, thankfully, the New Jersey appellate court correctly overturned the trial judge's decision, alleviating any concern about Sharia law trumping American law.

If religious law -- regardless if it is Muslim, Jewish or Christian -- does not comport with the principles of U.S. law, our courts will not follow it. It's that simple. This is a well-established principle of our American legal system -- one that I would have hoped the Republican politicians would have been known. Of course, maybe I'm assuming they know more than they do, as I was reminded by Bachman's recent gaffeVideoin saying the American Revolution began in New Hampshire instead of Massachusetts.

It appears that certain Republicans have created this "Sharia monster" for their own purposes. They scare us with their monster, and then they want to take credit for saving us from their own creation.

To those Republicans who continue to stoke the flames of fear and bigotry to attract media attention and benefit their own political careers, I hope you will heed the words of your fellow Republican Ronald Reagan, who famously stated: "No one group in this country is better than another. No one race or religion or sex or color is better than another. ... It's time we erased the last vestiges of intolerance, bigotry and unkindness from our hearts. Decency demands this and so does our history."

The opinions in this commentary are solely those of Dean Obeidallah.


Original article with annotations: Here.

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Reply Tue 19 Apr, 2011 08:58 am
@failures art,
You are very sick. You need help immediately. Please, for the sake of those you love and those who love you, please stop torturing those you love. Torture is not a good thing to do to those who love you. Please, stop the torture.
 

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