High Seas
 
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Reply Wed 16 Mar, 2011 04:41 pm
@JTT,
If I, or most posters here, knew your location, Marburg, I would drop a thermonuclear weapon right on your head. Looked to see who "user ignored, view" was in the only post following latest nuclear info - and for the record, not only was the US perfectly justified in Vietnam, so were the French Smile
http://www.atomicarchive.com/History/coldwar/images/french_mururoa.jpg

JTT
 
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Reply Wed 16 Mar, 2011 04:43 pm
@High Seas,
Quote:
Thanks, and this being your thread I trust you'll take care ...


Now this slurp slurp is something High Seas knows well.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 16 Mar, 2011 04:44 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:

Quote:
We agree on one thing, at least.

He just likes to hear himself talk, and it's sad to say, but whatever threads he latches onto quickly become ruined.


Jeeze, next thing you know, Cy, you'll be calling Hawkeye a troll.

One who wasn't an idiot would be able to discern that Hawkeye wasn't "talking".

He, in fact, provided material where he was completely silent. That material was from, according to an American network, two experts who gave an account that seems to call into question High Seas' widely vacillating pontifications.


I didn't read anything that he posted in this thread; I just agree with HoT that he's an idiot.

Cycloptichorn
JTT
 
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Reply Wed 16 Mar, 2011 04:48 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Quote:
I didn't read anything that he posted in this thread; I just agree with HoT that he's an idiot.


How eminently fair of you, Cy.

Is HoT short for Hot Lips Houlihan?
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High Seas
 
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Reply Wed 16 Mar, 2011 04:50 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
That's true of other posters here as well, but they, unlike Hawkeye, Marburg / JTT et al, don't claim to have expertise they can't even imagine exists.

If this were merely political it wouldn't matter - but this is life and death for possibly millions worldwide: check out nuclear plant risks vs. coal-fired ones:
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=coal-ash-is-more-radioactive-than-nuclear-waste
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JTT
 
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Reply Wed 16 Mar, 2011 04:51 pm
@High Seas,
You used to be such a good liar, High Seas. Do you not fully grasp the concept that surrounds the word ignore?

Now that you've exposed yourself, aaaaagain, what will be your next trick? I'm speaking figuratively here now.

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JTT
 
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Reply Wed 16 Mar, 2011 04:56 pm
@High Seas,
Quote:
If I, or most posters here, knew your location, Marburg, I would drop a thermonuclear weapon right on your head. Looked to see who "user ignored, view" was in the only post following latest nuclear info - and for the record, not only was the US perfectly justified in Vietnam, so were the French


Scatterbrained much?
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High Seas
 
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Reply Wed 16 Mar, 2011 05:04 pm
@dyslexia,
dyslexia wrote:

As I see it, the EVENT in Japan was the earthquake/tsunami, Not the nuclear reactors. while the media is 99% focused on "the nuclear" (pretty scary stuff) the devastation in Japan is from the tsunami, the untold dead, the incredible havoc is not not nuclear related. The damaged reactors are collateral damage (at this point in time) The media has magnified the nuclear issue simply because "nuclear" is a real giant among scary words.

That's all true, but the deeper question is why? What kind of agenda can anyone who knows better pursue in terrorizing others? The media must sell advertising in our system, and scares do seem to sell better than scientific fact, but what is the conceivable agenda of creepy crawlies like Marburg / JTT?
ossobuco
 
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Reply Wed 16 Mar, 2011 05:06 pm
@JPB,
This video no longer available for me, which I feel is too bad. It is a tough thing to watch, but, I think, valuable.
What I get from your link, JPB, now -
http://video.l3.fbcdn.net/cfs-l3-snc6/81489/34/1605260179420_2624.mp4?oh=ac31b4d8738221641ba490396dc19636&oe=4D7F9F00&l3s=20110313100648&l3e=20110315101648&lh=0a6cfa5eeaecd6dc12abf

I tried to send the link to my cousins, who toured the National Museum of Nuclear Science and History here in Albuquerque with me. I had a good long talk (an hour?) with the director on what was not a busy day (I plan to donate what I have of my father's stuff there, if I ever manage to fill out the forms, somewhere here on my desk, but all that was after I'd talked with him.)
The museum - http://www.nuclearmuseum.org/

djjd62
 
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Reply Wed 16 Mar, 2011 05:09 pm
@High Seas,
High Seas wrote:
The media must sell advertising in our system, and scares do seem to sell better than scientific fact



i had this to say in response to the backlash surrounding a comedians jokes

but nobody seems to be disturbed by the constant cable news disaster porn, i mean you can practically see the anchors building to orgasm as they hope and pray for a nuclear disaster to really boost the ratings
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High Seas
 
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Reply Wed 16 Mar, 2011 05:28 pm
@ossobuco,
Look for "giant black wave" on YouTube; not sure why the giant tsunami wave was quite so black - perhaps from gathering mud on ocean bottom?
http://media.thestar.topscms.com/images/ae/45/6429ee544056a9dae4ea6520368d.jpeg
georgeob1
 
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Reply Wed 16 Mar, 2011 05:36 pm
@Ragman,
Ragman wrote:

Carter was a naval officer on Admiral Rickover's first nuclear sub, Nautilus.


No he wasn't. Carter did go through Naval Reactors training after he graduated from Annapolis - along with a group of other like candidates. Afterwards he served a tour on a sub (not Nautulus) and then resigned his commission.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Wed 16 Mar, 2011 05:41 pm
@High Seas,
Horrendo, true, but not the same close watch as the video JPB posted. It showed water rising in a town (which?) area, what I would think of as a 'square' or an elongated plaza, with no people visible except a group on a few-story balcony, well dressed as it happened, just watching. Over six plus minutes of video the water inexorably moved up. I don't know how that camera did the darting photography - helicopter? Camerawork cut out abruptly.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 16 Mar, 2011 05:45 pm
@JTT,
Quote:
He, in fact, provided material where he was completely silent. That material was from, according to an American network, two experts who gave an account that seems to call into question High Seas' widely vacillating pontifications.

And of course when documentation is provided that shows HS to be wrong HS goes silent on the matter. We will certainly though at some point hear yet again all about how I am allegedly an idiot.
High Seas
 
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Reply Wed 16 Mar, 2011 05:54 pm
@hawkeye10,
Source, please? And - nobody except for you and Marburg here have ever accused me of excessive silence; thank you for that, greatly appreciated Laughing
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 16 Mar, 2011 06:18 pm
@High Seas,
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/nuclear-meltdown-essential-questions-japanese-reactors/story?id=13134767

Your claim that no one is talking about core melt down is obliterated by this link...
Ragman
 
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Reply Wed 16 Mar, 2011 06:24 pm
@georgeob1,
I stand or (sail) corrected. I wrongly assumed that it was the Nautilus because I had recalled that it was one of the first nuke subs.

However, my point is that Carter, not being an unfamiliar layman, should've known how to pronounce the damned word and not make himself sound ignorant. He was, after all, the President and a former naval officer when it was cutting-edge technology.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 16 Mar, 2011 06:28 pm
@hawkeye10,
Quote:
WASHINGTON — The chairman of the United States Nuclear Regulatory Commission gave a significantly bleaker appraisal of the threat posed by Japan’s nuclear crisis than the Japanese government, saying on Wednesday that the damage at one crippled reactor was much more serious than Japanese officials had acknowledged and advising Americans to evacuate a wider area around the plant than the perimeter established by Japan.

The announcement marked a new and ominous chapter in the five-day long effort by Japanese engineers to bring four side-by-side reactors under control after their cooling systems were knocked out by an earthquake and tsunami last Friday. It also suggested a serious split between Washington and Tokyo, after American officials concluded that the Japanese warnings were insufficient, and that, deliberately or not, they had understated the potential threat of what is taking place inside the nuclear facility
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/17/world/asia/17nuclear.html?_r=1&hp

Documenting my assertions that Japanese pronouncements have been false and overly optimistic...
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High Seas
 
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Reply Wed 16 Mar, 2011 06:29 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:

Your claim that no one is talking about core melt down is obliterated by this link...

Ah so desu ka - your "source" is your locals "talking about"! No doubt it's chock-full with particle physicists, starting with Marburg! Goodbye Smile
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oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 16 Mar, 2011 07:32 pm
Quote:
WASHINGTON, March 16 (Reuters) - The top U.S. nuclear regulator warned on Wednesday that one pool holding spent fuel at Japan's stricken nuclear plant may have run dry and a second could be leaking, something experts say could accelerate the release of radiation.

"We believe at this point that Unit Four may have lost a significant inventory, if not lost all, of its water," Gregory Jaczko, head of the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission, told lawmakers at a House energy and commerce subcommittee hearing.

Officials in Japan have not said how much water remains in the pool.

Jaczko said there was the possibility of a crack in the spent fuel pool in reactor No.3, "which could lead to a loss of water in that pool".

The NRC chairman also said the spent fuel pool level in reactor No.2 "is decreasing."


http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/03/16/japan-nuclear-nrc-idUKN1616855720110316
 

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