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I have feeling that Friends ignore me.

 
 
Reply Wed 2 Mar, 2011 07:36 am
I have friendships with a couple since last 4 years and thier name is abbreviated as HR. We are abroad and we both are from different but belongs from neighbouring country. We speak in English as they can not speak my native and also I can not understand thier native language. My problem is that i feel that they (HR) ignore me in front of thier other unknown and known persons. For example we give messages to each other to come for cofee. During coffe If I meet with my other countrymate I just say hi or only little bit chatt so that I can continue cofee with my own friends (HR). But when ever HR meet with their countrymate they continue to chatt with them as they came to cofee room to meet with them not with me and then I starts to feel thaty they are ignoring me or atleast I felt that I am nothing for them. Although I many times had told them clearly that I do not feel comfortable when they spent all the times with thier countrymate. These things happened many times but I always think that because my friendship is not very strong so I always igonre my these feelings and try to continue to improve friedhship with HR. But today it happened 2nd time. While I was going outside on the way HR met me and told me to join lunch with them. Then I postponed my own activities and I decided to join them I said I will join them within 20 minutes. But when I came with my lunch I found HR with thier one coutrymate any way I joined them. During the whole about 90% time HR speak with thier countrymate in thier own native language and thus today i am so much disturbed and writing this one with disheartedness. I want to contine my friendship beacue they are only my friends in last 4 years. Any can tell me wether my feeling is wrong or thier attitude towards me is not correct. Kindly give me suggestions please. Thanks a lot in advance.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Wed 2 Mar, 2011 07:41 am
@HR and ME,
Hi there,

What brings you to the country you are in now? Do you work there? If so, have you met people through work?

I'd advise that you meet more people besides HR, but my advice on how to do that depends a bit on your circumstances.

You have been in a country for four years, have you learned the language of that country?
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jespah
 
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Reply Wed 2 Mar, 2011 07:45 am
@HR and ME,
Well -- and I'm going to throw out the languages but they're probably wrong. This is just to make it easy for me to explain.

Let's say you're Chinese, and the HR people are Japanese. You agree to have lunch, or, perhaps, they see you and say, come and join us for lunch. You come and you eat with them but they've got some Japanese pals with them, and they spend a good 90% of the time speaking Japanese to their pals -- a language that you don't understand.

Now, I could get it if it was a word or two. Or, perhaps, if it was that they were going along in English and there was some word they didn't know and they threw it out in Japanese (several years ago, I used to work with 2 women who were Mandarin speakers -- they would be speaking Mandarin to one another and then English words like database and Oracle would be thrown into the mix as well). None of that would be a problem.

The problem is that most of the conversation is automatically excluding you. It's probably not about you (and it's worse if it is, but let's assume they're not gossiping about you while you're sitting there). The act is just plain rude.

But you can interject -- I don't understand you -- could you repeat that in English -- is that about someone I know. And also drive the conversation a bit yourself, e. g. bring up the topics. And don't be afraid to be very direct and say to the HR folk -- when you speak Japanese, I can't understand you and I feel very excluded when you do that. They may truly not get that it's rude (yeah, I know, it should be obvious, but some people are really that out of it).

I would say, try this, maybe, three times. If the problem persists, though, I'd say these people are clueless and rude and you might want to find other friends.
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PUNKEY
 
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Reply Wed 2 Mar, 2011 10:11 am
Is there ANY common language you and HR speak?

Either learn HR's language or insist that conversations be in English.

To invite you to lunch and then speak only to another person is rude.

Find others who can speak you language, too.
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