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Can "and" be missed out in the title of the novel?

 
 
Reply Wed 23 Feb, 2011 03:57 am
Heavenly Sword & Dragon-Slaying Saber

Rule out "&":
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Heavenly Sword Dragon-Slaying Saber

Is the title clear and will not be misleading?
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 23 Feb, 2011 04:45 am
@oristarA,
That depends on whether or not you allege that the heavenly sword and the dragon-slaying saber are one an the same thing. However, even if both titles refer to the same object, leaving the "and" out is damned awkward.
oristarA
 
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Reply Wed 23 Feb, 2011 05:21 am
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:

That depends on whether or not you allege that the heavenly sword and the dragon-slaying saber are one an the same thing. However, even if both titles refer to the same object, leaving the "and" out is damned awkward.


The heavenly sword and the dragon-slaying saber are matches:
the former is "female", the latter "male." Both are "divinely sharp" - king and queen in weapon arsenal.



laughoutlood
 
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Reply Wed 23 Feb, 2011 05:23 am
@Setanta,
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damned awkward


for a fable its ineffably and totally eff able and so's the briquet sobriquet

The heavenly sword and the dragon-slaying saber identifies the duality

how about 'the sword and the saber' to make it sound as if it should be read
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 23 Feb, 2011 06:40 am
@oristarA,
That is nor relevant to the issue--if they are two different items (keep the mystical bullshit to a minimum, OK?), then you have to have the "and." If it were one item, it would still sound awkward without the "and."

Laughoutloud, your bullshit never helps these people, who want reliable answers about the English langague. Instead, you just babble nonsense.
PUNKEY
 
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Reply Wed 23 Feb, 2011 06:46 am
Would

Heavenly Sword vs. Dragon-Slaying Saber

be accurate?
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fobvius
 
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Reply Wed 23 Feb, 2011 06:56 am
@oristarA,
Consider the title:

The sword and the saber

you need 'and the' to identify that they are separate and the adjectives are a distraction

speaking of distractions that other person said

Laughoutloud, your bullshit never helps these people, who want reliable answers about the English langague. Instead, you just babble nonsense.

oristar that second comma is redundant and langague might be misspelt

and as for babbling nonsense check out the spleen on this guy on other threads where he sticks his beak into the meek
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Wed 23 Feb, 2011 01:26 pm
Hmm, in regard to the Heavenly Sword and the Dragon-Slaying Saber being matches, it strikes me as a thoroughly Oriental way of thinking reminiscent of the idea of Yin-Yang. People who know if it know of its duality. But to clarify the duality for people who are ignorant of Yin-Yang, the conjunction "and" should be used to clarify its duality Yin and Yang.

I'm pretty sure that, like me, most people aren't aware of the duality of the Heavenly Sword and the Dragon-Slaying Saber. Using the conjunction "and" would help to clarify they are matched.
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Wy
 
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Reply Wed 23 Feb, 2011 01:55 pm
@oristarA,
If you like, you could say "Heavenly Sword, Dragon-Slaying Saber". That conveys the idea that there are two items being spoken about, without adding another word.
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JTT
 
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Reply Wed 23 Feb, 2011 06:01 pm
@Setanta,
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(keep the mystical bullshit to a minimum, OK?)


Keep the context that the writer wants to include,feels is important to THEIR writing, to a minimum!??

Sounds like damn stupid advice to be offering
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