America to Unions: Enough is Enough

Government employee unions negotiate with the government to see just how much tax payer money
they are going to take from us ordinary Americans so that they can live the way they want on our dime.

I wasn't talking about the virtues or lack thereof of the German Nazis; I was talking about what money actually amounts to and why that is or should be a political issue. It WAS THE biggest political issue in the U.S. during the late 1700s and all during the 1800s and then it went to sleep for a hundred years around 1913 when the income tax and Fed were set up, but it is in the process of coming awake again.

You should do some basic arithmatic... If the whole working class is paid only a portion of the value they produce, and out of that must support the good and evil that government does, and on top of that, the increase in technology designed to increase profits results in fewer and fewer producers, then great number will be thrown into the street without means to survive... After a time all you will have if left alone is a race to lower wages and general poverty... And capitalism, having taken all the free value out of the society finds it no longer has a market unless it can manage to start a war, and there the result is the same as from spending public money... It is to spread public money to prime the pump of capitalism, with the cost laid ultimately on all the people of the commonwealth... Capitalism is on death row... It is doomed... It can no longer bleed the people because it has reached the point where the government which supports its privilage to do so must, to survive, cut the guts out of the society... What will happen to capital when government can no longer make consumers of non-producers??? Do you think the government will be justified in turning the military against the people when it can not protect the people from business, nor business from the mob??? These clowns in government have robbed from the people for years, through unfair taxes, through deficit spending and inflation... And they have permitted the exploitation of the people through ever increasing usary...

Governments used to hang people for clipping coins, and conterfeiting was once considered treason... Now, the conterfeiters and coin clippers are in charge, and we have no defense... They are determined to rob this whole commonwealth from us, and leave us as slaves... If we resist them they will nuke us before giving in to us... Taking rights long accepted from union workers is just the beginning... The target is you... They are using this division to get you to deny the rights of working people, but the result is the denial of your own right... Its a monkey trap, and the monkey is you...

Both entities are spending other peoples money, money taken from us ordinary Americans.

It is about time... Paper money, monetary policy, the tax structure, and finance generally which people and governments are forced to rely upon because of the outrageous exploitation we suffer are all designed to rob us into national collapse... The end was inevitable, but the income tax has put the end of this nation in sight where it may have been put off a hundred years or more...
We never had a very responsive or democratic government; but the situation has grown so much worse, that we are now paying a greater share of taxes than our revolutionary forefathers could have imagined for less hope and more poverty... The difference between those people and ourselves is not simply less representation for higher taxes, but that more taxes and less representation have resulted in wide spread demoralization and division... We cannot act because those we blame are as much victims as ourselves, and we ignore those who are killing and setting us at each other's throats... Hell; the roman citizens when driven from their land by slaves still had the right to support from their society and some measure of justice... Driven from our homes and our property and peace of mind by finance and big business, and denied our rights; and we, people like ourselves, in the same boat as ourselves blame the free, and attack their freedom while giving the Senators a pass... By our standards, the standards we represent, the citizens of Rome held to a higher moral standard by far... At least they knew how to take to the streets... At least they knew how to invoke civil war rather than accept the yoke... We only tear at ourselves... We are not free men, and this is not the land of the free.

And their own... Do you believe union people do not pay taxes??? And do people not buy good as well as evil with their tax dollars??? The problem is that government pays a premium for the money it borrows that it cannot avoid borrowing to provide both essential and inessential services... Why can it not find people with enough money to support what the government does who are willing to pay for it???... In fact, since government does not support the need of the people for justice it has no claim on any tax dollars, and if it did support justice, then the people would have plenty of money to buy their own goods, and to support essential services....In supporting exploitation it cuts itself out of legitamacy, and out of money too; but look at them... If they must bust a contract, they do so with the little people and with the citizens, but does not break contract with the rich and the financiers who are robbing all... If Government is going broke, it is time to declare financial bankruptcy rather than moral bankruptcy... Tell the rich to come and collect so many slaves or chunks of sewer system or road... But tell them you are done living on credit and will pay as you go, by hook or crook... Clearly, it is the job of government to protect the population from the powerful and the rich, but more and more they are the means by which the people are squeezed out of their last wealth and hope for the benefit of the rich...

Look... Infrastructure serves all the people but the rich benefit as no others for which the pay less... And the money they will not pay in taxes they instead loan to be collected out of future earning of the population.... Education does not only benefit the educated, but the whole society... Yet, teachers and parents are forced by necessity to bear a greater share of the cost- when if educated and with good jobs, their children will continue to pay for the same education through taxes... Who benefits more from a good education??? Is it the educated person or his employer... We have a class of parasites who expect us to provide all the means of our continued exploitation out of our seed money... Some one needs to tell them to go to hell, to support the society that has been supporting them and making them rich or to get the hell out of dodge...

You tend to gloss over the important things and focus on the irrelevant.

THAT is why you need a copy of Ellen Brown's book; that is dead wrong. The most vibrant economy we ever had in the United States was entirely based on paper money and Ben Franklin at the time was called the father of paper money and George II shutting all of that down is what brought on the revolution, or did you think anybody was ever actually going to fight a ******* war over a two-bit tea tax??

Moreover the main reason there was any inflation either of the Continental or of Lincoln's greenback currency was the British counterfeiting them into oblivion in ships parked offshore and today's money of which something like 97% exists in the form of computer entries, would be vastly more difficult to counterfeit.

Are you trying to say that computer entries do not have to have some cash behind them??? From my perspective, the working class loses something without the excuse we must so often accept, that the check is in the mail...

I think it is criminal in that it forces people into risk of the money they do have to prevent their being robbed by government through inflation... If a job is worth doing it is worth paying for out of revenue and raising revenue if necessary... But; what leverage does local and state government have... They raise taxes on the whole population to give business a break in the hope that all will be made up in trade... It is not made up... The people must accept exploitation to have a job, and must bear exploitation for the benefit of jobs they do not even hold; and what is the long term benefit??? Throughout this state are miles of parking lots and brownfields where businesses that never paid their fair share packed up and left for greener pastures abroad, or in the South... All the investment in infrastructure made on their behalf must then be kept in repair and supported though it pays nothing... Why was it built??? The infrastructure of America represents a promise made to business that has never been reciprocated...

No matter how often a deal is cut with capital it is not worth the paper it is written on... That class has only the loyalty of its own view of self interest...It is one good reason to get rid of the redundancy of state and local government... So long as capital can whipsaw one state against another there is no natural limit to the extent we can be reduced to slavery... We have a national problem which the federal government does not want to face, and so, and as usual; it is the people who must govern their government...

They don't. All you need to do with money is see to it that whatever you do with it increases productivity and doesn't decrease it, and that people trust it.

The three American presidents who ever figured that **** out and acted like they were prepared to do anything about it were Lincoln, McKinley, and JFK; think real hard, what else do those three have in common; that's right....

Again, the web site and the book:

http://www.webofdebt.com

I mean, I've seen other books which do a reasonable job of explaining the problem with fractional reserve banking, but then they all go straight back to recommending a national gold standard which is criminally insane.