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Toyota electrical problem scare turns out to be BS

 
 
Reply Wed 9 Feb, 2011 09:09 am
http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2011/02/08/government-electronic-flaws-toyotas/

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...LaHood said engineers from the National Aeronautics and Space Administration "rigorously examined" nine Toyotas driven by consumers who complained of unintended acceleration. NASA reviewed 280,000 lines of software code to look for flaws that could cause the acceleration. Investigators tested mechanical components in Toyotas that could lead to the problem and bombarded vehicles with electro-magnetic radiation to see whether it could make the electronics cause the cars to speed up.
A preliminary part of the study, released last August, failed to find any electronic flaws based on a review of event data recorders, or vehicle black boxes....


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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 9 Feb, 2011 09:27 am
Obama and his goons shook down TOYOTA for millions, will Obama give the money back?
BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 9 Feb, 2011 10:48 am
@gungasnake,
Sorry but at best all they could state as a fact is they had not been able to find/reproduce the problem.

It surely does not mean that somewhere in that 280,000 lines of code interacting with the real universe environment there is not a problem that could cause a one in a few millions runaway event.

NASA did not update the 1980s computers/software for the shuttle flight control system because of the danger that no matter how careful you are you could still end up with a bad bug in any new flight control system.

Oh NASA is also the folks who cheerfully destroy a billion dollars plus Mars space probe as part of it software was working in the MKS system and the other part was in the good old fashion English feet/slugs/second system.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 9 Feb, 2011 10:52 am
@H2O MAN,
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Obama and his goons shook down TOYOTA for millions, will Obama give the money back?


H2O what are you not going to blame Obama for?
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RABEL222
 
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Reply Wed 9 Feb, 2011 11:24 am
These two are useing a "government agency" to bolster thier arguements. Isent that the definition of hypocrisy.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Wed 9 Feb, 2011 12:09 pm
I'll say it again. Half my family buys and sells cars for a living. This brings them into contact not only with all of the Toyota dealerships in the greater Washington D.C. metro area as well as the two gigantic used car auctions at Fredericksburg Va. and Manheim Pa. on a weekly basis. For an idea of the size of those auctions, the car lot at the much smaller auction in Va. is several times the size of the entire Pentagon parking system. The auction at Manheim is much bigger, with something like 35 or 40 auction lines going full bore on auction days and no one vehicle taking more than about 45 seconds in the lane for bids.

If there were ANYTHING to those accusations against Toyota, somebody at one of those dealerships or one of those auctions would have heard about it. But nobody has. Nobody in any of that picture has ever seen one of those phantom failures.


BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 9 Feb, 2011 01:23 pm
@gungasnake,
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If there were ANYTHING to those accusations against Toyota, somebody at one of those dealerships or one of those auctions would have heard about it. But nobody has. Nobody in any of that picture has ever seen one of those phantom failures.


A one in ten millions or so event is not likely to show up very often first of all full parking lots of cars or no full parking lot, second of all it would hardly be in any Toyota dealer best finance interests to communicate stories about such happenings.

I am also glad you have so must trust in NASA myself being a space supporter for fifty years or so I sadly do not have that level of trust.

My trust in them had never been the same since the poor design and resulting fire/death on the pad of the first Apollo ship occur in the 60s and all the other missteps of their over the decades.

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roger
 
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Reply Wed 9 Feb, 2011 02:27 pm
@gungasnake,
LaHood? The person of the same name that told us we should all park our Toyotas till the problem was fixed?
gungasnake
 
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Reply Wed 9 Feb, 2011 05:15 pm
@roger,
The same. Pretty amazing, isn't it?
roger
 
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Reply Wed 9 Feb, 2011 06:26 pm
@gungasnake,
Informative, if not amazing.
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