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Experience in resume...

 
 
jespah
 
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Reply Sat 5 Feb, 2011 10:37 am
@TuringEquivalent,
Never said I didn't want to make money. Starving sucks.

But fulfillment is more than cash.
TuringEquivalent
 
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Reply Sat 5 Feb, 2011 11:46 am
@jespah,
jespah wrote:

Never said I didn't want to make money. Starving sucks.

But fulfillment is more than cash.



Any type of money matters a lot when you are starving. Suppose you are just making it. Perhaps you earn enough just to pay the rent every month. Is this fulfillment? I don 't think so. People don 't value money, but they value the social status associated with money, and the experiences they can buy in the form of travel, and superior goods. A doctor might not like the long hours, but there is something priceless to be working in field where you are admired by your surrounding community. There is a sense of fulfillment that comes from working on something that matters to people. This is very important, and this is perhaps one of the reason why lawyers hate their jobs. People are social creatures that highly value the judge of the community, and they like to put their daily effort to doing something that the community itself value. Scientists are also highly valued, and they are pretty happy. Money also give security, and this is very comforting to many people. People like to think the world is great, and people have the best of intention. The truth is that the world is pretty meaningless, and people are cruel, and there is nothing you can do about it. The difference between you, and the beggar on the streets is that you have money. This is why money is important for a sense of security.
Oylok
 
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Reply Sat 5 Feb, 2011 12:22 pm
@TuringEquivalent,
TuringEquivalent wrote:

Oylok wrote:

TuringEquivalent wrote:
In order to make a comparison. Without such simplification, there would be no mathematical models.


You seem to see it as necessary to abstract ALL the details away, leaving yourself with a meaningless model. Wink


I say you are pretty ******* clueless about models. All economics models( or everything else) abstract away certain details. The average higher grad earns less than a college grad. What is "average"?


I'm glad you decided to restart this thread, although I doubt jespah and Cyclo are so thrilled about it. I expect they're getting pretty bored by now.

First,

What is the red part of your answer now in red supposed to mean? Do you mean that the average "Arts" grad earns less than the average college grad? Or are you criticising me for throwing around the term "average" in in this discussion?

Second,

Here, specifically, is what I don't like about your model:

(1) Financial models are useful only insofar as they allow us to make sound financial decisions. Your model does not appear to be very useful to anyone. The only people who might conceivably find it useful are college freshmen, deciding on a major, who want to maximise their future earnings. But the idea that the average Arts degree is worth less economically than the average science degree isn't going to help an individual make any sound decisions, because the value of the Arts or Science degree that that individual takes will depend on his/her other skills as well as on the exclusivity and reputation of the graduating institution. Averages mean absolutely nothing to the individual student.

(2) You have, all this time, been treating Arts and Science degrees like commodities, each determined by supply and demand in a single market. The commodity markets for "Arts degrees" and "Science degrees" you're talking about don't exist.

(3) You have never, so far as I've seen, shown us any statistics proving Arts degrees were worth less than Science degrees, or given any explanation of how those statistics were come by. For example, I'm not even sure whether this "value" you're talking about is supposed to be a stock or a flow. I've just assumed you were talking about income generated. Until you make a precise argument, you haven't really made any.

Show us your brilliant evidence for why why you're right. You brag about being so brilliant in Math; prove it!
TuringEquivalent
 
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Reply Sun 6 Feb, 2011 10:14 am
@Oylok,
Oylok wrote:

TuringEquivalent wrote:

Oylok wrote:

TuringEquivalent wrote:
In order to make a comparison. Without such simplification, there would be no mathematical models.


You seem to see it as necessary to abstract ALL the details away, leaving yourself with a meaningless model. Wink


I say you are pretty ******* clueless about models. All economics models( or everything else) abstract away certain details. The average higher grad earns less than a college grad. What is "average"?


I'm glad you decided to restart this thread, although I doubt jespah and Cyclo are so thrilled about it. I expect they're getting pretty bored by now.

First,

What is the red part of your answer now in red supposed to mean? Do you mean that the average "Arts" grad earns less than the average college grad? Or are you criticising me for throwing around the term "average" in in this discussion?

Second,

Here, specifically, is what I don't like about your model:

(1) Financial models are useful only insofar as they allow us to make sound financial decisions. Your model does not appear to be very useful to anyone. The only people who might conceivably find it useful are college freshmen, deciding on a major, who want to maximise their future earnings. But the idea that the average Arts degree is worth less economically than the average science degree isn't going to help an individual make any sound decisions, because the value of the Arts or Science degree that that individual takes will depend on his/her other skills as well as on the exclusivity and reputation of the graduating institution. Averages mean absolutely nothing to the individual student.

(2) You have, all this time, been treating Arts and Science degrees like commodities, each determined by supply and demand in a single market. The commodity markets for "Arts degrees" and "Science degrees" you're talking about don't exist.

(3) You have never, so far as I've seen, shown us any statistics proving Arts degrees were worth less than Science degrees, or given any explanation of how those statistics were come by. For example, I'm not even sure whether this "value" you're talking about is supposed to be a stock or a flow. I've just assumed you were talking about income generated. Until you make a precise argument, you haven't really made any.

Show us your brilliant evidence for why why you're right. You brag about being so brilliant in Math; prove it!


Some one made a comment that one 's degree does not matter, and that skills acquired from getting a LA is more or less similar to getting one from physical science. I just ******* disagree, and I think it is pure denial for anyone that disagree with me. I don 't think I am superior, but I do think people that hold the opposing feel is a ******* idiot. I am right, because I am stating the obvious truth that newly engineering, and math graduate on average earn more than people with LA degrees. I would suspect it is a pretty easy thing to back up the claim from a google search.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Sun 6 Feb, 2011 10:19 am
@jespah,
jespah wrote:

Never said I didn't want to make money. Starving sucks.

But fulfillment is more than cash.


Absolutely!
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Sun 6 Feb, 2011 11:29 am
@TuringEquivalent,
Frankly, I wouldn't care about your qualifications. What you have demonstrated here is that you're holding yourself in high esteem, you're not a team player and you think you're better than anyone else. That's the worst employee for any company. I certainly would never hire you, you're useless for any corporation. I am on the hiring end and I've seen your kind many many times - actual productivity is mostly zero.
jespah
 
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Reply Sun 6 Feb, 2011 11:33 am
@TuringEquivalent,
TuringEquivalent wrote:

jespah wrote:

Never said I didn't want to make money. Starving sucks.

But fulfillment is more than cash.



....The difference between you, and the beggar on the streets is that you have money. This is why money is important for a sense of security.


True, but I need not be a millionaire, and I don't even need to be the highest earner on my street or even in my house. What matters is not to starve, to have a roof up, the necessities. I won't deny that I enjoy luxuries, just like the next person.

But I refuse to go into something else, or back to a job I hated in order to have better vacations to get away from a job that I hate.
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Sun 6 Feb, 2011 11:37 am
@CalamityJane,
Agreed. I don't need some hot-shot on my team who thinks he knows more or is better than others. I need someone who is really hardworking and humble, who builds others up instead of puts them down.

Cycloptichorn
bny13
 
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Reply Sun 6 Feb, 2011 12:43 pm
@jespah,

Jespah. can you answer some of my question. Its for my research paper plss.. T_T.. ITS ABOUT COMPUTER ENGINEERING
Can you please answer some of my question ASAP..
and please include your email address ^_^...Thank you
Here are my questions.
1. What are the tools or other equipment do you use frequently?
2. What was the hardest class you took in college to become engineer?
3.What are some of your skills to become an engineer?
4.What do you like about your job?
5. What do you dislike about your job.?
6. What is your name, email address, (i need it for my research paper).
Thank you..
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Sun 6 Feb, 2011 01:47 pm
@bny13,
Lol

Cycloptichorn
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 6 Feb, 2011 02:50 pm
@bny13,
Jespah has answered this question before, at least twice on this thread here:
http://able2know.org/topic/136342-1

To possibly see more posted answers by others in the past, put the words 'computer engineering' in the google custom search window at the top of the page in the dark blue banner.

You will see this page -
http://able2know.org/search/?cx=partner-pub-3092869023721312%3Adw2qoa-tocz&cof=FORID%3A10&ie=UTF-8&q=computer+engineering+%2B+jespah&sa=&siteurl=able2know.org%2Fnewposts%2F

I think this question has been asked several times but I don't want to go through seven pages of possibilities. That's good practice for you, though.

If you have further questions, please start another thread on the subject, as people who could possibly answer might not be reading this present thread on resumes.
TuringEquivalent
 
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Reply Sun 6 Feb, 2011 03:26 pm
@CalamityJane,
CalamityJane wrote:

Frankly, I wouldn't care about your qualifications. What you have demonstrated here is that you're holding yourself in high esteem, you're not a team player and you think you're better than anyone else. That's the worst employee for any company. I certainly would never hire you, you're useless for any corporation. I am on the hiring end and I've seen your kind many many times - actual productivity is mostly zero.




Tell me more about "my kind", please!
TuringEquivalent
 
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Reply Sun 6 Feb, 2011 03:29 pm
@jespah,
jespah wrote:

TuringEquivalent wrote:

jespah wrote:

Never said I didn't want to make money. Starving sucks.

But fulfillment is more than cash.



....The difference between you, and the beggar on the streets is that you have money. This is why money is important for a sense of security.


True, but I need not be a millionaire, and I don't even need to be the highest earner on my street or even in my house. What matters is not to starve, to have a roof up, the necessities. I won't deny that I enjoy luxuries, just like the next person.

But I refuse to go into something else, or back to a job I hated in order to have better vacations to get away from a job that I hate.


I am not disagree with you. You can do whatever you like with your life. For the record, I don 't at all think money is the most important part of life. I thinking being happy has a lot to do with doing what you like, and not starve.
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TuringEquivalent
 
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Reply Sun 6 Feb, 2011 03:40 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:

who builds others up instead of puts them down.

Cycloptichorn


This shows how little you know about people.
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Sun 6 Feb, 2011 03:47 pm
@TuringEquivalent,
TuringEquivalent wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:

who builds others up instead of puts them down.

Cycloptichorn


This shows how little you know about people.



Would you look at your behavior in this thread, and describe yourself as someone who 'builds others up?' You started off by demeaning a large group of people and switched to personal insults soon after. Apply some of your vaunted analysis to the situation.

Cycloptichorn
CalamityJane
 
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Reply Sun 6 Feb, 2011 04:06 pm
@TuringEquivalent,
I've read quite a few statement of yours here on a2k, especially the "loser" thread is very revealing. You resort to profanities when logic is confronting
you, simply because you can't come up with an answer.

You're very young and face obstacles that you have not anticipated. This makes you angry, after all you deserve better. Then again, life is not fair,
and sometimes - like in your case - it's awfully nice to see that it's not fair.
TuringEquivalent
 
  -1  
Reply Sun 6 Feb, 2011 08:33 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:

TuringEquivalent wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:

who builds others up instead of puts them down.

Cycloptichorn


This shows how little you know about people.



Would you look at your behavior in this thread, and describe yourself as someone who 'builds others up?' You started off by demeaning a large group of people and switched to personal insults soon after. Apply some of your vaunted analysis to the situation.

Cycloptichorn


You better damn well know that I don 't delight in deluding myself with what is false.
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TuringEquivalent
 
  -1  
Reply Sun 6 Feb, 2011 08:45 pm
@CalamityJane,
CalamityJane wrote:

I've read quite a few statement of yours here on a2k, especially the "loser" thread is very revealing. You resort to profanities when logic is confronting
you, simply because you can't come up with an answer.

You're very young and face obstacles that you have not anticipated. This makes you angry, after all you deserve better. Then again, life is not fair,
and sometimes - like in your case - it's awfully nice to see that it's not fair.


So, what do you know about "my kind"? Are you avoiding me? For the record, I don 't demand the world to be fair, I demand the world to be regularity. I study, anticipate, and play "your kind" like the submissive you are.
CalamityJane
 
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Reply Sun 6 Feb, 2011 09:46 pm
@TuringEquivalent,
Haha, I had to laugh about "submissive"...I don't avoid "your kind" I just don't have use for people like you. Life is too short to bother with your kind, I am sorry to say. Your kind doesn't go far either, despite your academic achievements (that's why you're so pissed).
TuringEquivalent
 
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Reply Sun 6 Feb, 2011 11:07 pm
@CalamityJane,
CalamityJane wrote:

Haha, I had to laugh about "submissive"...I don't avoid "your kind" I just don't have use for people like you. Life is too short to bother with your kind, I am sorry to say. Your kind doesn't go far either, despite your academic achievements (that's why you're so pissed).


I don 't think so. Whatever job/career you have is in the area of pleasing people. Be honest, do people advantage of you a lot? I do think so.
 

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