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Obama's SOU speech tonight

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 27 Jan, 2011 05:41 pm
@HexHammer,
HH, Just another useless post that doesn't address what you mean by "hot air."
HexHammer
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jan, 2011 01:45 am
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

HH, Just another useless post that doesn't address what you mean by "hot air."
Please stop acting retarded.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jan, 2011 11:34 am
@HexHammer,
If you think I'm retarded, you're in bigger trouble than you think.
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revelette
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jan, 2011 12:54 pm
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FactChecking Obama’s Address
We find some debatable claims and ambitious promises in his State of the Union address.
January 26, 2011


Summary
We found no outright false factual claims in Obama’s State of the Union address, but we did note some that were arguable, and some promises that may prove unrealistic.

He called his Race to the Top initiative “the most meaningful reform of our public schools in a generation.” That’s debatable. Some independent experts say Bush’s No Child Left Behind program had a greater impact.

The president set a goal of generating 80 percent of the nation’s electricity from “clean” sources by 2035. That’s ambitious. The first large-scale “clean coal” plant has yet to begin operation. And Obama counts nuclear energy as a “clean” source, despite the unresolved waste issue.

He set a goal of giving 80 percent of the U.S. population access to high-speed rail in the next 25 years. But the U.S. only has one high-speed rail line in operation now.

He said his new health care law will slow rising health care costs. But the office of Medicare’s chief actuary estimates the law won’t have much impact on costs, and there will be a slight rise in total spending as more people gain coverage under the law.

He said “exports are up” since he set a goal of doubling them in five years, which is true. But the rise so far falls short of the pace required to meet his goal.

On other factual matters we found the president’s statements to be accurate, or reasonably so. He said the U.S. subjects businesses to “one of the highest corporate tax rates in the world,” which is borne out by the World Bank and other studies. He said U.S. engineers gave the nation’s infrastructure a grade of “D,” which is true. That rating was issued by the American Society of Civil Engineers. And he said U.S. workers are unexcelled in productivity, which is true according to one ranking and nearly true by other measures.


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FactChecking the GOP Response

Ryan and Bachmann made two new false claims, and repeated other talking points, in their responses to the president's State of the Union address.
January 27, 2011


Summary
We fact-checked President Obama’s State of the Union address, but what about the Republican response speeches? We found two new claims that we haven’t covered before:

In the official response, Rep. Paul Ryan said that "trust in government is at an all-time low now that the size of government is at an all-time high." He’s wrong on both counts. Trust has been lower, and government has been larger, in the past.

In her own rebuttal to Obama, Rep. Michele Bachmann said that the bailout cost "$700 billion." The net cost actually is estimated to be much less — $25 billion, according to the Congressional Budget Office.

In addition, the two Republicans repeated several false and misleading charges we’ve already written about. Our readers will be familiar with many of them, such as claims that the stimulus didn’t create jobs (it did), that the health care law hurts job growth (experts say the impact will be small), and that "16,500 IRS agents" will enforce that law (that’s based on a flawed, partisan analysis).



factcheck.org
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 28 Jan, 2011 04:33 pm
@revelette,
rev, Thanks for sharing those factchecks. It might quiet down the conservatives who only criticize Obama's SOU, and not what their counterparts stated after the speech. That's only if they understand what the factcheck articles say.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sat 29 Jan, 2011 04:50 pm
Keeping It Simple: Obama Records 2nd Lowest Flesch-Kincaid SOTU Grade Level Score Since FDR
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