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Are republicans irrational? If not, why is their voting behavior so crazy?

 
 
Reply Sat 22 Jan, 2011 03:44 am
I want to understand something about conservative republicans. This is a bunch of people I can 't figure out no matter how much I try. Let us look at who these CR people from. They are usually from backward( ie: poor, underdeveloped states). From this fact, we can infer their income are low, to middle income range. Probably, more people in the former, than the latter category.

Problem 1:
They usually are the ones that need socially safety net the most. Should their voting behavior reflect this fact?

Problem 2:
Also, CR usually have lower level of education, thus lead to higher unemployment rate in a global economy. This is just a fact of globalization. They stand to have most to lose with the down fall of unions. So, why do they vote for republican?

Problem 3:
RC are mainly made up of poor people. Most of them probably cannot even afford medical insurance. If so, why do they vote against nationalizing healthcare.

Rules:
I know it is common to attack another person with personal insult if you don 't agree with another person 's politics. I hope we can be civil. I use arguments by avoiding personal opinions, and feelings. I hope we can have a civil debate without personal insults. It is by the way a democratic ideal.
 
thack45
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jan, 2011 07:18 am
@TuringEquivalent,
I agree that civil discourse would be nice but you may find this debate difficult from the onset given that the facts presented don't stand up to a quick web search...

Just Google it.
TuringEquivalent
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jan, 2011 07:57 am
@thack45,
I admit, I was biased. I do thing the scholars in this country are democratic.
electronicmail
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jan, 2011 09:58 am
@TuringEquivalent,
TuringEquivalent wrote:


Problem 1:
They usually are the ones that need socially safety net the most. Should their voting behavior reflect this fact?

FALSE

Problem 2:
Also, CR usually have lower level of education, thus lead to higher unemployment rate in a global economy. This is just a fact of globalization. They stand to have most to lose with the down fall of unions. So, why do they vote for republican?

FALSE

Problem 3:
RC are mainly made up of poor people. Most of them probably cannot even afford medical insurance. If so, why do they vote against nationalizing healthcare.

FALSE



Where did you get your factoids? You just may want to remember where you got them so you never trust that source again. I'm curious to find out as well so please try to remember.
electronicmail
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jan, 2011 10:02 am
@TuringEquivalent,
That factoid came from the same source as the other 3?
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TuringEquivalent
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jan, 2011 10:02 am
@electronicmail,
My source come from experience. I notice a lot of poor people are republicans.
This is a mistake, sorry.
electronicmail
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jan, 2011 10:04 am
@thack45,
Thanks for that
http://pewresearch.org/assets/publications/451-2.gif

Very interesting. Column 3 especially.
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electronicmail
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jan, 2011 10:06 am
@TuringEquivalent,
TuringEquivalent wrote:

My source come from experience. I notice a lot of poor people are republicans.
This is a mistake, sorry.

That's OK. I'm a Tea Party activist, we get all kinds.
djjd62
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jan, 2011 10:08 am
@electronicmail,
electronicmail wrote:
That's OK. I'm a Tea Party activist, we get all kinds.

http://olehenrysnuthouse.com/images/mixed-nuts-large.jpg

Razz
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jan, 2011 10:11 am
@electronicmail,
Quote:
That's OK. I'm a Tea Party activist, we get all kinds.


You are awfully brave to admit that in public.
RABEL222
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jan, 2011 10:12 am
@TuringEquivalent,
Republicans are not irrational. What they are is greedy. They use their wealth to advertise blatant lies and inuendo to convince the electroate that it is their interest to vote for the conserative candidates. Those candidates than repay them with laws that make the rich richer. We need campaign reform which will happen when hell freezes over. Can you envision politicians voteing to do away with the money that keeps them in office.
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electronicmail
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jan, 2011 10:14 am
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:

Quote:
That's OK. I'm a Tea Party activist, we get all kinds.


You are awfully brave to admit that in public.


Laughing Laughing Laughing It's in my profile!
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Lash
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jan, 2011 10:19 am
@electronicmail,
Out of his ass.
electronicmail
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jan, 2011 10:33 am
@Lash,
So he said he was wrong and he apologized fair and square. Let's move on. We're seeing a real shift towards the Tea Party in the blue states about to file for bankruptcy. Red states are doing OK.
Quote:
.....discussions about something as far-reaching as bankruptcy could give governors and others more leverage in bargaining with unionized public workers.“They are readying a massive assault on us,” said Charles M. Loveless, legislative director of the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees. “We’re taking this very seriously.”
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jan, 2011 10:35 am
@electronicmail,
electronicmail wrote:

So he said he was wrong and he apologized fair and square. Let's move on. We're seeing a real shift towards the tea party in the blue states about to file for bankruptcy. Red states are doing OK.
Quote:
.....discussions about something as far-reaching as bankruptcy could give governors and others more leverage in bargaining with unionized public workers.“They are readying a massive assault on us,” said Charles M. Loveless, legislative director of the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees. “We’re taking this very seriously.”



States can't file bankruptcy. It's against currently existing laws in a lot of ways.

Besides, where did you get the idea that Red States are doing well? Nearly every single one is facing a big budget deficit, and big ones - like Texas - are facing deficits as large as CA or IL.

Cycloptichorn
electronicmail
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jan, 2011 10:39 am
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:

States can't file bankruptcy. It's against currently existing laws in a lot of ways.

They'll have to. The laws of arithmetic don't matter in your mindset? You got to be a liberal democrat....... The law is getting changed as well, get informed: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/21/business/economy/21bankruptcy.html?_r=2&hp=&pagewanted=all
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jan, 2011 10:53 am
@electronicmail,
electronicmail wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:

States can't file bankruptcy. It's against currently existing laws in a lot of ways.

They'll have to. The laws of arithmetic don't matter in your mindset? You got to be a liberal democrat....... The law is getting changed as well, get informed: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/21/business/economy/21bankruptcy.html?_r=2&hp=&pagewanted=all


There's no shortage of money for the Federal government to assist them with, which is the appropriate action to take. If our government can spend billions to reconstruct other countries, they can spend money to assist our own people in times of crisis.

Did you even read your own article? I don't think so. No bill has been crafted in either house and no politician has publicly championed it. This whole thing is a push by House Republicans in order to strike at Labor Unions, who they have hated for years.

A bill would have to be crafted that the Senate Democrats would pass and that Obama would sign. If you think that Senate Dems are going to vote to stab labor unions in the back, you're out of your ******* mind. Same with Obama.

The law isnt' 'getting changed.' You just wish it were. One article in the NYT and a bunch of tea-bagger wet dreams don't change the law.

How do you respond to the fact that several 'red' states are in big financial trouble themselves? Or are you just going to kinda ignore that.

Cycloptichorn
Lash
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jan, 2011 11:08 am
@electronicmail,
Move on, yourself.
electronicmail
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jan, 2011 11:08 am
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:

How do you respond to the fact that several 'red' states are in big financial trouble themselves? Or are you just going to kinda ignore that.

So you can't count, and you also can't read. Definitely a liberal democrat. I'll post one more excerpt for you, talking to you lot is like feeding a baby, a little bit at a time
Quote:
Beyond their short-term budget gaps, some states have deep structural problems, like insolvent pension funds, that are diverting money from essential public services like education and health care.

Only blue states qualify. Not a single red state on the danger list.
electronicmail
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jan, 2011 11:11 am
@Lash,
Trying to, it's not easy if you got to talk to people who can neither read nor count like the liberal democrat I'm spoon-feeding right now.... My only point to you concerned the OP.

 

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