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The worlds first riddle!

 
 
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 13 Jan, 2004 10:56 am
Tryagain wrote:

I hope this makes it clear Frank. You take the last letter of the full word.
I.e. 'Voluntary Service Overseas'. = YES (still working on cookies)


Crystal.

Glad the football games prevented me from giving it any more attention than I did. :wink: :wink:
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 13 Jan, 2004 11:02 am
Tryagain wrote:

What was the first man-made object to travel faster than Mach 1 Question


Any surviving shrapnel from an A-Bomb test???

I thought the X1 was the first, but obviously that is wrong.

I know someone drove a car faster than Mach 1 on the ground -- but that was after the X1.

C'mon, give the answer.
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Tue 13 Jan, 2004 12:59 pm
The answer as supplied by, good old Mungo. Cool

I would assume that to be the tip of the lash of a whip - as in 'cracking of the whip'. Hoowee!

The end can reach speeds of up to 700mph. The 'cracking' sound is in fact a miniature sonic boom. Not a lot of people know that. Idea

BTW despite the fact that there has never been a standard formally laid down, can you name me any culture or area that uses a clock that has hands that move from left to right. Question (i.e. anti the standard 'clockwise')
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Adrian
 
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Reply Tue 13 Jan, 2004 06:37 pm
Anticlockwise clock: Jewish quarter of Prague.
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Tue 13 Jan, 2004 07:48 pm
Adrian wrote:
Anticlockwise clock: Jewish quarter of Prague.


Adrian, I did not know that. Only people who come from Sydney would know something like that. Did you see the Simpson's when they visited down under? Very Happy
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Adrian
 
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Reply Tue 13 Jan, 2004 09:08 pm
Yes. I'm a huge fan of the Simpsons but that episode was absolutely terrible. Crocodile Dundee and Steve bloody Irwin, that's all the yanks think of when they think Australia.
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Mungo
 
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Reply Tue 13 Jan, 2004 09:44 pm
Try

There is a pub in Dublin that has all of its clocks 'mirror-wise', but that is a commercial decision.

It originated because the main clock was on the far wall from the bar and those drinking at the bar saw it in the mirrors, so the barlord had it reversed to save them from straining their brains or turning round, thus interrupting valuabe supping time.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 14 Jan, 2004 04:54 am
Tryagain wrote:
The answer as supplied by, good old Mungo. Cool

I would assume that to be the tip of the lash of a whip - as in 'cracking of the whip'. Hoowee!

The end can reach speeds of up to 700mph. The 'cracking' sound is in fact a miniature sonic boom. Not a lot of people know that. Idea


Very good. But tough for us ex-Air Force types to accept. We'll stick with the X-1 and Chuck Yeager.


Quote:
BTW despite the fact that there has never been a standard formally laid down, can you name me any culture or area that uses a clock that has hands that move from left to right. Question (i.e. anti the standard 'clockwise')


He ain't a culture, but I have a friend who has a clock that runs "backwards" on the wall of his den.



I must say, Try, you are one handsome devil. I felt an instant kinship with you the moment I saw your new avatar. I imagine I would love the way you look when the moon is not full.
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Wed 14 Jan, 2004 09:08 am
[quote="Frank Apisa
I must say, Try, you are one handsome devil. I felt an instant kinship with you the moment I saw your new avatar. I imagine I would love the way you look when the moon is not full.[/quote]

Well, thank you Frank. There is an uncanny resemblance between our photographs. Twisted Evil
I noticed it around the eyes. Were you in the Fort Worth area around Christmas 73? Did you ever date a girl by the name of Mary-Ann? Are you my, my….Probably not. :wink:

Do you know what number satisfies the following condition?
The same result is obtained regardless of whether the number is multiplied by four, or it has four added to it. Question
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jan, 2004 05:44 pm
My Doctor says I have a very rear illness, no not that one. This one can only be cured by arranging nine blocks numbered 1-9 in a square and no matter which way you add the numbers (horizontally, vertically or diagonally) they always add up to 15. Can you provide the cure? Thanks in advance, cough, cough.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jan, 2004 07:33 pm
Tryagain wrote:
My Doctor says I have a very rear illness, no not that one. This one can only be cured by arranging nine blocks numbered 1-9 in a square and no matter which way you add the numbers (horizontally, vertically or diagonally) they always add up to 15. Can you provide the cure? Thanks in advance, cough, cough.



When you have this one, you will also have the answer to Mungo's puzzle of a while back.
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Sat 17 Jan, 2004 06:33 am
Oh, you earthlings make I laugh. Is there not one of you out there that can add up to 15? On Ormiod Percie 8, this is a second grade question.

Whilst you ponder nine miserable little blocks, perhaps the leaders amongst you could help the inhabitants of the little known planet of Naissur.

Their problem is they cannot multiply. They can only add and subtract, and even then, they cannot cope with more than eight columns of figures.
Can you suggest how they can obtain the answer, as they want to multiply 97x39 Question
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Sat 17 Jan, 2004 03:30 pm
My sincere thanks go to dear old Mungo for providing an answer to the ?'Fifteen' question Cool (Which will be published later).

The Doc now says, the second stage is to use 16 blocks in the same way, so the total is 34. There is however, one small refinement, in that each corner must also total 34.
Good luck, I will need it. :wink:
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sun 18 Jan, 2004 06:01 am
Try

The magic square for 15 was to old to even bother with.

My question is...

...has anyone come up with responses for:

1) Do you know what number satisfies the following condition?
The same result is obtained regardless of whether the number is multiplied by four, or it has four added to it.

2) Their problem is they cannot multiply. They can only add and subtract, and even then, they cannot cope with more than eight columns of figures.
Can you suggest how they can obtain the answer, as they want to multiply 97x39.
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Sun 18 Jan, 2004 10:54 am
Frank, or should I refer to you as, ?'Agony Uncle'? Oh, I did laugh at your post about tying a bowling ball to your ?'thingy' to increase size. Why is this practice unknown to medical science? Idea

You remind me of Bill Occam. Or should I say William Ockham?

One should not increase, beyond what is necessary, the number of entities required to explain anything.

Occam's razor is a logical principle attributed to the mediaeval philosopher William of Occam (or Ockham). The principle states that one should not make more assumptions than the minimum needed. This principle is often called the principle of parsimony. It underlies all scientific modelling and theory building. It admonishes us to choose from a set of otherwise equivalent models of a given phenomenon the simplest one. In any given model, Occam's razor helps us to "shave off" those concepts, variables or constructs that are not really needed to explain the phenomenon. By doing that, developing the model will become much easier, and there is less chance of introducing inconsistencies, ambiguities and redundancies.

Though the principle may seem rather trivial, it is essential for model building because of what is known as the "under determination of theories by data". For a given set of observations or data, there is always an infinite number of possible models explaining those same data. This is because a model normally represents an infinite number of possible cases, of which the observed cases are only a finite subset. The non-observed cases are inferred by postulating general rules covering both actual and potential observations.

For example, through two data points in a diagram you can always draw a straight line, and induce that all further observations will lie on that line. However, you could also draw an infinite variety of the most complicated curves passing through those same two points, and these curves would fit the empirical data just as well. Only Occam's razor would in this case guide you in choosing the "straight" (i.e. linear) relation as best candidate model. A similar reasoning can be made for n data points lying in any kind of distribution.

Occam's razor is especially important for universal models such as the ones developed in General Systems Theory, mathematics or philosophy, because there the subject domain is of an unlimited complexity. If one starts with too complicated foundations for a theory that potentially encompasses the universe, the chances of getting any manageable model are very slim indeed. Moreover, the principle is sometimes the only remaining guideline when entering domains of such a high level of abstraction that no concrete tests or observations can decide between rival models. In mathematical modelling of systems, the principle can be made more concrete in the form of the principle of uncertainty maximization: from your data, induce that model which minimizes the number of additional assumptions.

This principle is part of epistemology, and can be motivated by the requirement of maximal simplicity of cognitive models. However, its significance might be extended to metaphysics if it is interpreted as saying that simpler models are more likely to be correct than complex ones, in other words, that "nature" prefers simplicity.

All of which I agree with. Cool

Now, back to your original question, and please note that unlike your post on 10.18.02 when you had to wait until 04.11.03 for a reply, Box Clever brings this speedy response to you, one-line answers for all occasions. "When in a hole it might be prudent to cease digging"

BTW Many, many, wrong answers. Think simple. No trick, just simple. :wink:
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sun 18 Jan, 2004 11:12 am
Tryagain wrote:
Frank, or should I refer to you as, ?'Agony Uncle'? Oh, I did laugh at your post about tying a bowling ball to your ?'thingy' to increase size. Why is this practice unknown to medical science? Idea

You remind me of Bill Occam. Or should I say William Ockham?

One should not increase, beyond what is necessary, the number of entities required to explain anything.

Occam's razor is a logical principle attributed to the mediaeval philosopher William of Occam (or Ockham). The principle states that one should not make more assumptions than the minimum needed. This principle is often called the principle of parsimony. It underlies all scientific modelling and theory building. It admonishes us to choose from a set of otherwise equivalent models of a given phenomenon the simplest one. In any given model, Occam's razor helps us to "shave off" those concepts, variables or constructs that are not really needed to explain the phenomenon. By doing that, developing the model will become much easier, and there is less chance of introducing inconsistencies, ambiguities and redundancies.

Though the principle may seem rather trivial, it is essential for model building because of what is known as the "under determination of theories by data". For a given set of observations or data, there is always an infinite number of possible models explaining those same data. This is because a model normally represents an infinite number of possible cases, of which the observed cases are only a finite subset. The non-observed cases are inferred by postulating general rules covering both actual and potential observations.

For example, through two data points in a diagram you can always draw a straight line, and induce that all further observations will lie on that line. However, you could also draw an infinite variety of the most complicated curves passing through those same two points, and these curves would fit the empirical data just as well. Only Occam's razor would in this case guide you in choosing the "straight" (i.e. linear) relation as best candidate model. A similar reasoning can be made for n data points lying in any kind of distribution.

Occam's razor is especially important for universal models such as the ones developed in General Systems Theory, mathematics or philosophy, because there the subject domain is of an unlimited complexity. If one starts with too complicated foundations for a theory that potentially encompasses the universe, the chances of getting any manageable model are very slim indeed. Moreover, the principle is sometimes the only remaining guideline when entering domains of such a high level of abstraction that no concrete tests or observations can decide between rival models. In mathematical modelling of systems, the principle can be made more concrete in the form of the principle of uncertainty maximization: from your data, induce that model which minimizes the number of additional assumptions.

This principle is part of epistemology, and can be motivated by the requirement of maximal simplicity of cognitive models. However, its significance might be extended to metaphysics if it is interpreted as saying that simpler models are more likely to be correct than complex ones, in other words, that "nature" prefers simplicity.

All of which I agree with. Cool

Now, back to your original question, and please note that unlike your post on 10.18.02 when you had to wait until 04.11.03 for a reply, Box Clever brings this speedy response to you, one-line answers for all occasions. "When in a hole it might be prudent to cease digging"

BTW Many, many, wrong answers. Think simple. No trick, just simple. :wink:


Glad I didn't ask you what the time was!
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Sun 18 Jan, 2004 01:46 pm
Right on time!
How many times per day do the hour and minute hands of an analogue clock form a 90 degree (right) angle Question
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Mon 19 Jan, 2004 06:00 pm
I have been asked, "What the hell is"…

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Aviation
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Handel wrote the Water Music, aviation = Fly

Answer. Flying off the Handle!

New one!

What am I? …R/E/A/D/I/N/G
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Adrian
 
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Reply Mon 19 Jan, 2004 06:17 pm
Analogue clock = 48 times per day.
R/E/A/D/I/N/G = reading between the lines.
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jan, 2004 10:46 am
Reading, correct.

Clock, 44, since it happens twice every hour (giving 48) but there are only three between 2 to 4, and 8 to 10, so 4 has to be subtracted.


Quote> Yes. I'm a huge fan of the Simpson's but that episode was absolutely terrible.

>Crocodile Dundee and Steve bloody Irwin, that's all the yanks think of when they think Australia.

From what I have heard, Kyle M. would also be there along with Rolf Harris but not the cast of ?'neighbours'. After the ?'Get the Aussies Out' campaign, I am surprised you are still clinging on. Is it because of your dedication to the art of poetry? BTW eight postings on the same day, impressive. Cool For example.

"One of the reasons Arnie (Arnold Palmer) is playing so well is that, before each tee shot, his wife takes out his balls and kisses them... Oh my god, what have I just said?!?"
US TV commentator.

"Ah, isn't that nice, the wife of the Cambridge president is kissing the Cox of the Oxford crew."
Harry Carpenter BBC TV 1977.

Outstanding, keep it coming. Razz

BTW It has been brought to the attention of the management, that a puzzle was posted at 9.38 pm and answered correctly by you at 9.44 pm, six, yes, six minutes later. Please notify the Guinness Book of Records.

You will not answer this one as quickly.

What number would logically come next in this sequence?

4 6 5
9 4 4
2 4 Question
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