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The worlds first riddle!

 
 
Tryagain
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jan, 2004 04:17 pm
In response to complaints from those of you that like word puzzles,
I attempt to put matters right with the following.

Complete the last line.

ESP = AYN
ANC = NLS
HCF = TNR
ICBM = RLCE
VSO =
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Mungo
 
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Reply Sat 10 Jan, 2004 01:38 pm
I've made no progress at all on this one - other than finding out what it is not. Maybe I'm trying too hard and it is something so simple . . .
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sat 10 Jan, 2004 01:40 pm
Tryagain wrote:
In response to complaints from those of you that like word puzzles,
I attempt to put matters right with the following.

Complete the last line.

ESP = AYN
ANC = NLS
HCF = TNR
ICBM = RLCE
VSO =


I just discovered this. Don't give the solution yet!
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Sat 10 Jan, 2004 04:11 pm
What a coincidence. I have just checked the FBi national database and found that both you guys = 9

Check, and see if you agree with me.

Take the last 2 digits of your phone number x 2 + your dwelling number
- your age in years x 18. Sum the digits of the result. (Repeat the sum until you have a single digit) = 9. Cool

Are you twins?
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Mungo
 
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Reply Sat 10 Jan, 2004 06:37 pm
Naah! It's that database got jammed up again. Try it on something like the the woman next door's bra size in centimetres; multiply by 17; add the last three numbers of next month's lottery winner; multiply by 143; add your arresting officer's badge number; times 72; sum the digits until only one is left and you still get nine. Like I said, you just can't trust those databases.
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Sun 11 Jan, 2004 09:40 am
"add the last three numbers of next month's lottery winner"

I wish. Laughing

Re. the last line. Clue - think 'acronyms'. Idea

However if 'adding' is your thing then sit back, throw another log on the fire and answer me this;

An agent is selling four acres of land for $15,000 or seven acres for $24,000. He does not mind which offer people choose because he makes the same profit on each sale.

Today he sold a total of 26 acres. How much profit did he make Question
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Mungo
 
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Reply Sun 11 Jan, 2004 11:41 am
You say that he makes the same profit on each sale and doesn't mind? I would mind. I would want to make the same profit for each acre and not for each sale. Making the same profit on eacxh sale is the same as saying that three of the seven are sold at cost price, and what is the point of that? Could you assure me that it IS for each sale.

Acronyms. I was aware that those on the left are all well-known acronyms. (Those on the right are, as far as I know, lesser known acronyms, but that is probaly true of any small bunch of letters taken at random) Nope; still no progress.
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Sun 11 Jan, 2004 04:43 pm
Oh, you Canadians, you do make I laugh. Now you expect business logic included in the problem. Well, we are here to please. Laughing

This agent is smarter than he looks. Due to the geography, access and water supply, he can only sell the land in four and seven acres plots. However, the rough land is only worth $500 per acre, so he is still doing very well.

After consulting with my lawyers, I am able to confirm that the profit is on each parcel of land. There is no trick in the wording or sale.

Please note that all the above is for background information only and does not affect the answer in any way. The answer is a ?'simple' mathematical calculation.
It has to be, as you know how bad I am at maths.

Acronyms. Clue two. The letters on the Right, come from the Words on the Left. :wink:
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Mungo
 
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Reply Sun 11 Jan, 2004 06:30 pm
Try

Canadien/ne, eh? Moi? Sacre portageuse! First time I heard someone say "Saskatoon Saskatchewan" I wondered what language they were speaking, beause it didn't sound English or French.

Acronyms: so I'm stupid; so sue me! (YEN, at long last) I knew I was looking too deep. I tried giving letters a numerical value from their position in the alphabet. I tried 'Julius Caesar'letter substitutions and 'Playfair code'. I checked the letter frequency to see if the appearance of each letter was consistant with statistical probability.
"A five year old child could solve this!". "So bring me a five year old child!"

Given that the profit is per parcel rather than per acre, I would suggest that he makes $15 000 profit on his sale of 26 acres (2 parcels of 7 acres and three parcels of four acres at a profit of $3 000 per parcel)
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Sun 11 Jan, 2004 07:11 pm
YEN? is that Yen as in Yang? YEN, is not the answer. But real close.
As Frank has asked that I dont publish the answer...yet, I will wait.

Land agent, spot on. Cool
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sun 11 Jan, 2004 07:36 pm
Tryagain wrote:
YEN? is that Yen as in Yang? YEN, is not the answer. But real close.
As Frank has asked that I dont publish the answer...yet, I will wait.

Land agent, spot on. Cool



Do it, Try.

I ain't gettin' no brainstorms. In fact, I ain't even gettin' a mild, summer brainshower.
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Mungo
 
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Reply Sun 11 Jan, 2004 08:45 pm
Try

Is there a 'right' answer per se?
VSO can stand for:
Voluntary Service Organisation (The one that comes first to my mind as I am involved with it)
Vancouver/Vermomt/Vlladivostok Symphony Orchestra
Verb Subject Object
Valdosta Southern Railway
Veterans Service Organisation
VSO Brandy
Stalling velocity at take off
Variable sweep oscillator
And no doubt many others.
But on consideration the one you had in mind would be 'Voluntary Service Overseas'.

It might be worth adding that it is a recognised medical acronym, standing for 'Very sensitive orifice'. I must bear that in mind for the future as a term of abuse! :-)
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Mon 12 Jan, 2004 06:46 am
Ouch, point taken! Laughing
"Is there a 'right' answer per se?"

THE PER SE CATEGORY: BACKGROUND
A. Historical Evolution
Following some early, and somewhat contradictory, cases, the Supreme Court in 1911 adopted a "rule of reason" for Section 1 analysis. In Standard Oil Co. v. United States, 221 U.S. 1 (1911), the Court stated that the generic nature of Section 1's prohibitions necessarily leaves it "to be determined by the light of reason, guided by the principles of law and the duty to apply and enforce the public policy embodied in the statute, in every given case whether any particular act or contract was within the contemplation of the statute." Id. at 63-64. Stated simply, "[T]he rule of reason becomes the guide."
Nonetheless, in ensuing years the Court reserved certain practices as unlawful per se, that is, it determined that certain categories of practices should be conclusively presumed unlawful. The Court acted first with regard to price fixing. In United States v. Trenton Potteries Co., 273 U.S. 392 (1927), the Court reasoned that "The aim and result of every price-fixing agreement, if effective, is the elimination of one form of competition," and concluded that price fixing can be condemned without determining whether a particular fixed price is unreasonable. Id. at 397-98. Thirteen years later, in United States v. Socony-Vacuum Oil Co., 310 U.S. 150 (1940), the Court amplified its analysis to make it clear that the per se rule applies to "[a]ny combination which tampers with price structures." Id. at 221. "Under the Sherman Act a combination formed for the purpose and with the effect of raising, depressing, fixing, pegging, or stabilizing the price of a commodity in interstate or foreign commerce is illegal per se." Id. at 223.

I was of cause thinking of, the ?'Valdosta Symphony Railway'. However, as your VSO work was widely recognised through the academic world, I did indeed change it to YES.

I hope this makes it clear Frank. You take the last letter of the full word.
I.e. 'Voluntary Service Overseas'. = YES (still working on cookies)

My New Years resolution was to come up with a question you people could not answer. I think I have found that question.

What was the first man-made object to travel faster than Mach 1 Question
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Mon 12 Jan, 2004 09:58 am
?'Good old Mungo' and I have been told ?'Old' being the operative word.
Has once again, yawn, yawn, guessed the right answer. However, in a show of magnanimity the answer will be withheld, pending any appeal. Laughing

In the meantime,
What are the longest words that can be made only using consonants?
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Mungo
 
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Reply Mon 12 Jan, 2004 05:13 pm
"Rhythms" comes to mind - it beats "Syzygy" by one letter, assuming that plurals are allowed - but I suspect that there is a catch and all is not as it appears. I will cogitate deeply upon this.
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Mungo
 
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Reply Mon 12 Jan, 2004 05:55 pm
Having cogitated, I am of the opinion that both "rhythms" and "Syzygy" use 'Y' as a vowel and are not therefore 'vowel-free'. There are longer words that contain no vowels other than 'Y' but they are either dubious constructions - e.g. "Symphysy" (from the medical term, "Symphysis") - or would have dropped out of use a long time ago - e.g. "Twyndyllyngs" - had they not be kept extant under artificail respiration by people who collect trivia.

IMHO of course.

And I am still wondering what the catch is.
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Craven de Kere
 
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Reply Mon 12 Jan, 2004 05:58 pm
Tryagain wrote:

What are the longest words that can be made only using consonants?


Onomatopoeias

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm..... etc etc, that's a "trick answer"
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Tue 13 Jan, 2004 07:34 am
Onomatopoeia is a word that imitates the sound it represents.
Also imitative harmony. Craven, your contribution is, as always, warmly welcomed. Cool

NYMPHLY Twisted Evil RHYTHMS

Such devices bring out the full flavor of words. Comparison and association are sometimes strengthened by syllables which imitate or reproduce the sounds they describe. When this occurs, it is called onomatopoeia (a Greek word meaning name-making "), for the sounds literally make the meaning in such words as "buzz," "crash," "whirr," "clang" "hiss," "purr," "squeak," "mumble,"
"hush," "boom."

Poe lets us hear the different kinds of sounds made by different types of bells in his famous poem "The Bells." His choice of the right word gives us the right sound when he speaks of "tinkling" sleigh bells; "clanging" fire bells; mellow "chiming" wedding bells; "tolling," "moaning," and "groaning" funeral bells.
Tennyson makes us feel the heaviness of a drowsy summer day by using a series of "in" sounds in the wonderfully weighted lines:
The moan of doves in immemorial elms,
And murmuring of innumerable bees.

"The rusty spigot, sputters, utters a splutter, spatters a smattering of drops, gashes wider; slash, splatters, scatters, spurts, finally stops sputtering and plash! gushes rushes splashes clear water dashes."

However IMHO they could be considered more onomatopoeic since they imitate the actual sounds.

Acronyms.

So good, so good, they mentioned the name twice times two.
Location, a local boat yard.

"Never a redneck, whose nerve creaked at the thought of a cracked veneer that required a deck to be re-veneered." Question

Any connection between any name and any persons living or otherwise is purely coincidental. :wink:
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Mungo
 
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Reply Tue 13 Jan, 2004 07:43 am
Try

Neat anagrams. A neat - if short - poetry lecture too. Very neat. (Gee, I wish I were smart like youse guys)
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Tue 13 Jan, 2004 09:56 am
Quote, "(Gee, I wish I were smart like youse guys)"

Wish away, ?'odd logo mungo', ?'no good old mug', ?'old gum no good',
?'go old moo dung'. Razz

Us am smart. If, for Acronyms, you read Anagrams. Embarrassed

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Aviation
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The well known ?'fraze' Question
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