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The worlds first riddle!

 
 
markr
 
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Reply Wed 1 Sep, 2004 07:19 pm
KNIGHTS, KNAVES, AND CATS:
Only three of the six possible combinations are consistent. Two of these have A as the knight. I'd bet on A.

NUMBER OF 2's:
1-333

BASKETS OF BALLS:
The probability is 9/64.
red, red, non-red (black, white, or purple)
red, non-red (black, white, or purple), red
non-red (black, white, or purple), red, red
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markr
 
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Reply Wed 1 Sep, 2004 07:25 pm
What is it that given one, you will have either two or more?

A couple
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markr
 
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Reply Thu 2 Sep, 2004 12:24 am
What seven letters did Old Mother Hubbard say when she opened her cupboard?

OICURMT
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Reply Thu 2 Sep, 2004 05:23 am
Hold the front page…we have a winner! Cool

Mark writes, "KNIGHTS, KNAVES, AND CATS:
Only three of the six possible combinations are consistent. Two of these have A as the knight. I'd bet on A." Very Happy

For the chart below, assume A = knave, I = knight, & O = normal.

A B C
A I O
A O I
I A O
I O A
O A I
O I A

The first condition & the last 2 conditions cannot occur because contradictions would occur. In 2 of the second, third, & fourth possibilities, the knight is A, the person who claims to love cats. You would be wisest to bet on A, as there is better than a 66% chance that that individual is a knight.

He is now 2,000,000 good wishes better off. :wink:

He then continues, "NUMBER OF 2's: 1-333" Cool

1-333. The reason why is because 200-299 each begins with a 2!

He then tries for three in a row for double or quits, "

"BASKETS OF BALLS:
The probability is 9/64.
red, red, non-red (black, white, or purple)
red, non-red (black, white, or purple), red
non-red (black, white, or purple), red, red"

I say, there are 64 different possible outcomes, & in 9 of these, exactly 2 of the balls will be red. There is thus a slightly better than 14% chance that exactly 2 balls will be red. A much faster way to solve the problem is to look at it this way. There are 3 scenarios where exactly 3 balls are red:

1 2 3
R R X
R X R
X R R

X is any ball that is not red. There is a 4.6875% chance that each of these situations will occur. Take the first one, for example: 25% chance the first ball is red, multiplied by a 25% chance the second ball is red, multiplied by a 75% chance the third ball is not red. Because there are 3 scenarios where this outcome occurs, you multiply the 4.6875% chance of any one occurring by 3, & you get 14.0625%.

Merlin took the view, "There are 64 possible outcomes. Three of them result in exactly two red balls. Therefore, the probability is 3/64 or 4.6875%."

What is not in dispute is Mark's answer, "What seven letters did Old Mother Hubbard say when she opened her cupboard?

OICURMT Cool

?'Oh, I (C) see (U) you (R) are (M/T) empty.

And last but not least, "What is it that given one, you will have either two or more?

'A couple' Crying or Very sad

Proof at last that you are human, and not some sort of mutant ?'super brain'. An interesting answer. However, you could have said ?'a box of matches'. But, the answer is a single six letter word starting with ?'C' and ending with ?'e'

Today's humble offering;

8 Zips & 14 Kigs can build 510 Qors in 10 hours, & 13 Zips & 6 Kigs can build 492 Qors in 12 hours.

At what rates do Zips & Kigs build Qors Question
Please express your answers in Qors per hour.
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markr
 
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Reply Thu 2 Sep, 2004 09:02 am
Zips: 2 Qors/hr
Kigs: 2.5 Qors/hr
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markr
 
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Reply Thu 2 Sep, 2004 07:06 pm
What is it that given one, you will have either two or more?

Choice
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Reply Fri 3 Sep, 2004 06:07 am
Stop the clock! Mark wins the Master Wizard title. Cool

What is it that given one, you will have either two or more?

Idea "Choice" Idea

Not content with that, he goes on with," Zips: 2 Qors/hr. Kigs: 2.5 Qors/hr " Cool

How could he know that?
This problem can be solved algebraically: 10 (8k + 14l) = 510 and 12 (13k + 6l) = 492. You then isolate 1 variable in 1 equation, & substitute it in the other equation. Zips build 2 tors an hour, & Kigs build 2.5 Qors an hour.

Easy peasy - not!

However I am confident that no one can answer this; Twisted Evil


If a juggler juggles 4 objects, how many total throws must he or she make before the objects are returned to their original positions (i.e. the original 2 objects in each hand) Question

The juggler starts out with 2 objects in each hand, & throws 1 object from 1 hand, then another object from the second hand, then the remaining object from the first hand, & so on.

Except for the first throw for each hand, there is a moment where the throwing hand no longer holds anything after each throw.


I am a 12 letter word.

A. My 2, 9, 10, 11, 12, 8 is a word that means the same as the word that is the name of a very well known search engine.

B. My 7, 5, 6, 4 is a famous philosopher.

C. My 10, 11, 3, 1, 8 is the snow leopard of Asia.

What am I?
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markr
 
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Reply Fri 3 Sep, 2004 09:00 am
8 throws
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markr
 
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Reply Fri 3 Sep, 2004 01:45 pm
What am I?

A 12 letter word.

I can't find anything that fits with Uncia (snow leopard).
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markr
 
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Reply Fri 3 Sep, 2004 11:32 pm
I've been going through the old puzzles in this topic. Here's an alternate answer for
"There are 7 1's 3 2's 2 3's 1 4's 1 5's 1 6's 2 7's 1 8's 1 9's and 1 0's in this sentence." (2/9/04)

There are 11 1's 2 2's 1 3's 1 4's 1 5's 1 6's 1 7's 1 8's 1 9's and 1 0's in this sentence.
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Reply Sat 4 Sep, 2004 05:48 am
Mark, "8 throws" Cool

Pretend that A & B are the objects in the juggler's first hand, & C & D are the objects in the juggler's second hand. You thus start out as AB CD, & each step shows the result after each throw (note: some of the objects would not actually reach their destination in the steps in which they are shown arriving):

1. B ACD
2. BC AD
3. C ABD
4. CD AB
5. D ABC
6. AD BC
7. A BCD
8. AB CD

It would take a total of 8 throws to get the objects back into their original positions.


"A 12 letter word.

I can't find anything that fits with Uncia (snow leopard)."

The answer is CANTANKEROUS:

A. AROUSE (synonym of EXCITE).

B. KANT.

C. OUNCE.


At a movie theatre, the manager announces that they will give a free ticket to the first person in line whose birthday is the same as someone who has already bought a ticket. You have the option of getting in line at any time.

Assuming that you don't know anyone else's birthday, that birthdays are distributed randomly throughout the year, etc., what position in line gives you the greatest chance of being the first duplicate birthday Question

Short of time, but your comment on ?'old puzzles' looks interesting.
Hope to be back later.
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markr
 
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Reply Sat 4 Sep, 2004 11:41 am
Oh, had to translate uncia from Latin to English.

You want to be 20th in line.
Assuming 365 days, your probability of winning is about .03232.
Assuming 366 days (with 2/29 just as likely as any other), your probability of winning is about .03227.
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Reply Sat 4 Sep, 2004 12:09 pm
Question:
There are _ 1's _ 2's _ 3's _ 4's _ 5's _ 6's _ 7's _ 8's _ 9's and _ 0's in this sentence. Fill in the blanks with the correct digits to make the sentence true.

Answer:
There are 7 1's 3 2's 2 3's 1 4's 1 5's 1 6's 2 7's 1 8's 1 9's and 1 0's in this sentence. There are a few key pieces of insight that help solve the problem. First, there can only be 1 zero, because there aren't zero of any number. Next there can't be more than 1 nine. Then one can recognize that most of the larger numbers will have value of 1. The only except will be whatever number fills 1's slot. Trial and error can solve the rest quickly.

Mark wrote, "Here's an alternate answer, ?'There are 11 1's 2 2's 1 3's 1 4's 1 5's 1 6's 1 7's 1 8's 1 9's and 1 0's in this sentence'. Cool

My original assumption that you possessed a ?'Hal' type brain has been proved true. That you should re-visit the answer is in its self-remarkable. To come up with an equally valid answer is, may I say outstanding. Very Happy

"Oh, had to translate uncia from Latin to English. " All is fair in trick or treat. :wink:

This was compounded by this answer, "You want to be 20th in line. Cool
Assuming 365 days, your probability of winning is about .03232.
Assuming 366 days (with 2/29 just as likely as any other), your probability of winning is about .03227. "

Whilst I had:
Suppose you are the Kth person in line. Then you win if and only if the K-1 people ahead all have distinct birtdays AND your birthday matches one of theirs. Let
• A = event that your birthday matches one of the K-1 people ahead
• B = event that those K-1 people all have different birthdays
Then
Prob(you win) = Prob(B) * Prob(A | B)
(Prob(A | B) is the conditional probability of A given that B occurred.)
Now let P(K) be the probability that the K-th person in line wins, Q(K) the probability that the first K people all have distinct birthdays (which occurs exactly when none of them wins). Then
P(1) + P(2) + ... + P(K-1) + P(K) = 1 - Q(K)
P(1) + P(2) + ... + P(K-1) = 1 - Q(K-1)

P(K) = Q(K-1) - Q(K) <--- this is what we want to maximize.
Now if the first K-1 all have distinct birthdays, then assuming uniform distribution of birthdays among D days of the year, the K-th person has K-1 chances out of D to match, and D-K+1 chances not to match (which would produce K distinct birthdays). So
Q(K) = Q(K-1)*(D-K+1)/D = Q(K-1) - Q(K-1)*(K-1)/D
Q(K-1) - Q(K) = Q(K-1)*(K-1)/D = Q(K)*(K-1)/(D-K+1)

Now we want to maximize P(K), which means we need the greatest K such that P(K) - P(K-1) > 0. (Actually, as just given, this only guarantees a local maximum, but in fact if we investigate a bit farther we'll find that P(K) has only one maximum.) For convenience in calculation let's set K = I + 1. Then
Q(I-1) - Q(I) = Q(I)*(I-1)/(D-I+1)
Q(I) - Q(I+1) = Q(I)*I/D

P(K) - P(K-1) = P(I+1) - P(I)
= (Q(I) - Q(I+1)) - (Q(K-2) - Q(K-1))
= Q(I)*(I/D - (I-1)/(D-I+1))
To find out where this is last positive (and next goes negative), solve
x/D - (x-1)/(D-x+1) = 0
Multiply by D*(D+1-x) both sides:
(D+1-x)*x - D*(x-1) = 0
Dx + x - x^2 - Dx + D = 0
x^2 - x - D = 0

x = (1 +/- sqrt(1 - 4*(-D)))/2 ... take the positive square root
= 0.5 + sqrt(D + 0.25)
Setting D=365 (finally deciding how many days in a year!),
desired I = x = 0.5 + sqrt(365.25) = 19.612 (approx).
The last integer I for which the new probability is greater then the old is therefore I=19, and so K = I+1 = 20.

You should try to be the 20th person in line. Embarrassed

Ouch! This hurt's.

You enter a town that has K killers and P pacifists. When a pacifist meets a pacifist, nothing happens. When a pacifist meets a killer, the pacifist is killed. When two killers meet, both die.

Regardless of whether you are a pacifist or a killer, you may disregard all events in which a pacifist other than yourself is involved and consider only events in which you are killed or a pair of killers other than yourself is killed.

Assume meetings always occur between exactly two persons and the pairs involved are completely random. What are your odds of survival Question
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markr
 
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Reply Sat 4 Sep, 2004 03:37 pm
If K is odd, then the population eventually becomes 1 (a killer) since killers are killed in pairs. Therefore, you are guaranteed to be killed.

If K is even, it's a matter of whether or not you get killed before the last two killers kill each other.
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markr
 
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Reply Sat 4 Sep, 2004 07:51 pm
Worked it out for small numbers - noticed a pattern - didn't try to prove.

As before, if K is odd, probability of survival is 0.
If K is even, probability of survival is 1/(K+1).

Combining these gives:
P(survival) = (1-(K mod 2))/(K+1)

Interestingly, it doesn't matter how many pacifists there are.
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Reply Sun 5 Sep, 2004 05:54 am
I urge all visitors to read Mark's replies above - classic. Cool

A town has two hospitals, one big and one small. Every day the big hospital delivers 1000 babies and the small hospital delivers 100 babies. There's a 50/50 chance of male or female on each birth.

Which hospital has a better chance of having the same number of boys as girls Question


Is a round-trip by airplane longer or shorter if there is wind blowing Question
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markr
 
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Reply Sun 5 Sep, 2004 11:09 am
Longer.
Let A=rate of Airplane
Let W=rate of Wind
Let D=one way Distance
Let T=total Time
After a bit of algebra you get:
T(no wind) = 2D/A
T(wind) = 2DA/(A^2 - W^2)
If W=0, these are equivalent.
Otherwise the latter is larger.
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markr
 
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Reply Sun 5 Sep, 2004 11:23 am
The smaller hospital will have the greater chance (by a factor of about 3).
Given N babies (N is even), the probability of having the same number is:

C(N,N/2)/(2^N)

where C(N,N/2) is the number of combinations of N things taken N/2 at a time [N*(N-1)/2].
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Reply Mon 6 Sep, 2004 05:00 am
Mark, what a pleasure it is to read your answers. Cool Cool I have now made it my life's ambition to find a topic that confounds you. I therefore, (to use a technical term)intend to crank it up a notch. :wink:



In a universe with the same physical laws, but which is mostly water with little bubbles in it, do the bubbles attract, repel, or what Question

Harry throws two darts at a dartboard, aiming for the center. The second dart lands farther from the center than the first.
If Harry now throws another dart at the board, aiming for the center, what is the probability that this third throw is also worse (i.e., farther from the center) than his first Question

Assume Harry's skilfulness is constant.
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markr
 
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Reply Mon 6 Sep, 2004 10:47 am
Confounding me won't be difficult!
BUBBLES
I don't have a clue (see, it wasn't difficult). I'm leaning toward repulsion (the bubbles, not me) since they are less dense than their surroundings. On the other hand, if the universe is finite, won't they all collect at the surface? Bubbles at the surface often seem to clump.

DARTS
Since I can't think of a different way to solve this, I'm going to take a simple approach.
Assuming equal likelihood of the rankings of the throws (closest, middle, farthest):
123, 132, 213, 231, 312, 321
we already know that 1 comes before 2.
That leaves
123, 132, 312
So the probability would be 2/3.
Of course, using this logic, it is equally likely that his last throw will be the closest, in the middle, or the farthest. This seems counterintuitive since the regions between the center and the first dart and the first dart and the second dart are finite, but the region beyond the second dart is infinite.
I'll stick with 2/3.
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