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The worlds first riddle!

 
 
Tryagain
 
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Reply Tue 7 Sep, 2004 06:35 am
My apologies Mark, the ?'bubbles' problem is something I was working on. Even so I reckon what you said fits with my thoughts. Very Happy

"A bubble should produce a gravitational field that is the negative of that produced by an equal volume of water in an empty universe. This is because a point in space would be affected only by the water in the symmetric image of the bubble with respect to that point. The effect on another bubble in that field would be to attract that bubble since it would be pushing the water around it away. Therefore, the bubbles should attract."

As for the darts. Cool


What I should have posted was;

What is the maximum overhang you can create with an infinite supply of bricks Question

Followed by;
12 men leave their hats with the hat check. If the hats are randomly returned, what is the probability that nobody gets the correct hat Question
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Adrian
 
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Reply Tue 7 Sep, 2004 07:04 am
Quote:
What is the maximum overhang you can create with an infinite supply of bricks Question


Infinites tend to spawn other infinites. (Just touching base. :wink: )
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markr
 
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Reply Tue 7 Sep, 2004 09:47 pm
BRICKS
Couldn't figure out. Looked online. My problem was attacking it from the bottom up.

HATS
176214841/479001600 = 0.367879441
which is awfully close to 1/e, which is where the probability converges as the number of hats/men approaches infinity. This was a fun exercise in recursion.
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markr
 
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Reply Tue 7 Sep, 2004 10:20 pm
MORE HATS
What's the probability that only one person doesn't get the correct hat?
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Tue 7 Sep, 2004 10:47 pm
Approximately the same as exactly 3, 5, 7, 9, or 11 getting the wrong hat.
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markr
 
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Reply Tue 7 Sep, 2004 10:59 pm
Sorry, that's not correct.
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Wed 8 Sep, 2004 04:58 am
Adrian, author of such novels as, ?'My Dingo has just eaten a Joey' and ?'A Joey has just been eaten by my Dingo' returns from the wilderness. Great to see you mate, you don't say much but when you do, not only is it cryptic but also correct. Very Happy

"Infinites tend to spawn other infinites." Cool

You can create an infinite overhang.
Let us reverse the problem: how far can brick 1 be from brick 0?
Let us assume that the brick is of length 1.
To determine the place of the center of mass a(n):
a(1)=1/2
a(n)=1/n[(n-1)*a(n-1)+[a(n-1)+1/2]]=a(n-1)+1/(2n)
Thus
n 1 n 1
a(n)=Sum -- = 1/2 Sum - = 1/2 H(n)
m=1 2m m=1 m
Needless to say the limit for n->oo of half the Harmonic series is oo.

Knowing your involvement with the auto industry, try this;

What is the fastest way to make a 90 degree turn on a slippery road Question

Mark enlightens us with his reply and asks a further question which I hope I have made clear.

HATS
"176214841/479001600 = 0.367879441
which is awfully close to 1/e, which is where the probability converges as the number of hats/men approaches infinity."

?'12 men leave their hats with the hat check. If the hats are randomly returned, what is the probability that nobody gets the correct hat?'

Suppose we are handing out hats to n people. First we start with all the possible outcomes. Then we subtract off those that assign the right hat to a given person, for each of the n people. However, this double-counts each outcome that assigned 2 hats correctly, so we have to add those outcomes back in.
But now we've counted one net copy of each outcome with 3 correct hats in our set, so we have to subtract those off again. But now we've taken away each 4-correct-hat outcome once too often, and have to put it back in, and so forth ... until we add or subtract the outcome that involves all n people getting the correct hats.
Putting it all in probabilities, the measure of the original set is 1. For a given subset of k people, the probability that they all get their correct hats is (n-k)!/n!, while there are (n choose k) such subsets of k people altogether. But then
(n choose k)*(n-k)!/n! = (n!/((n-k)!*k!))*(n-k)!/n! = 1/k!
is the total probability measure we get by counting each subset of k people once each. So we end up generating the finite series
1 - 1/1! + 1/2! - 1/3! +- ... +/- 1/n!
which is of course just the first n+1 terms of the Taylor series expansion for f(x) = e^x centered at 0 and evaluated at -1, which converges to 1/e quite fast. You can compute the exact probability for any n >= 1 simply by rounding n!/e to the nearest whole number, then dividing again by n!.

Moreover I think you will find you are always rounding down for odd n and rounding up for even n.
For example,
12! / e = 176214840.95798...
which is within 0.05 (absolute error, not relative) of the correct intermediate result, 176214841.


Can you help?

Harry has lost his car keys! He's not using a very efficient search; in fact, he's doing a random walk. He starts at 0, and moves 1 unit to the left or right, with equal probability. On the next step, he moves 2 units to the left or right, again with equal probability.

For subsequent turns he follows the pattern 1, 2, 1, etc. His keys, in truth, were right under his nose at point 0. Assuming that he'll spot them the next time he sees them, what is the probability that poor Harry will eventually return to 0 Question
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Adrian
 
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Reply Wed 8 Sep, 2004 05:05 pm
The next in the series will be 'My dingo is sleeping it off under that coolabah tree'.

What's this question about 90 degree turns? What speed are we talking about? The question is far too vague. I refuse to answer until such time as you provide me with friction coefficients , initial velocities, vehicle mass, center of gravity, and the corner radius at least. Razz
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markr
 
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Reply Wed 8 Sep, 2004 10:46 pm
RANDOM WALK
I don't know. If it is to happen, it will happen on a 4Nth or 4N+3rd move (can't have an odd number of +/- 1's). It is also greater than .72 since by the 16th move, his chances of having found them are a tad greater than .72.

90 DEGREE TURN
I agree with Adrian. Is this a trick question?
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Thu 9 Sep, 2004 04:24 pm
Adrian, the world famous wild-life author calls up the 5th amendment. This was supported and some may think encouraged by Mark who may have southern hemisphere leanings. :wink:

Read the answer and ?'weap' Crying or Very sad

What is the fastest way to make a 90 degree turn on a slippery road?

For higher speeds (measured at a small distance from the point of initiation of a sharp turn) the fastest way round is to "outside loop" - that is, steer away from the curve, and do a skidding 270.
This technique is taught in advanced driving schools.
References:
• M. Freeman and P. Palffy, American Journal of Physics, vol 50, p. 1098, 1982.
• P. Palffy and Unruh, American Journal of Physics, vol 49, p. 685, 1981.

The probability that Harry returns to 0 is 1. Harry's wanderings map to an integer grid in the plane as follows. Let (X_t,Y_t) be the cumulative sums of the length 1 and length 2 steps respectively taken by Harry through time t. By looking only at even t, we get the ordinary random walk in the plane, which returns to the origin (0,0) with probability 1. In fact, landing at (2n, n) for any n will land Harry on top of his keys too. There's no need to look at odd t.
Similar considerations apply for step sizes of arbitrary (fixed) size.


A man went to the hardware store to buy some items. While there the power went out and the cashier was unable to use the cash register, but was still checking customers out using a calculator to add up the totals. The man had 4 items and placed them on the counter.

He watched as the clerk hit the buttons on the calculator and noticed that the clerk was multiplying the items together instead of adding them. The clerk told the man his total was $7.11 and the man said that the total was wrong because he had multiplied the amounts instead of adding them.
The clerk then figured the cost again this time making sure to add the amounts. The total was again $7.11. T

he man paid and walked out wondering if he had been mistaken the first time when he corrected the clerk. When he got home he found that if the prices were multiplied or added the total was always $7.11.

So, what was the price of each of the four items Question


A farmer has 20 hens that he knows together will hatch 30 eggs every 18 days. If the farmer buys 10 more hens. How long will it take to hatch the same number of eggs Question
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markr
 
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Reply Thu 9 Sep, 2004 07:20 pm
90 DEGREE TURN:

I almost said do a 270 as a joke!

HENS/EGGS:

3/2 the number of hens can do the same work in 2/3 the time. 12 days. Hatchings must be staggered over the 18 day intervals such that half lay two eggs in the current interval then one egg in the next, and half lay one egg in the current interval then two in the next. They all lay one egg each 12 day interval.

If one woman can have a baby in 9 months, how many months does it take 9 women to have a baby?
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markr
 
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Reply Fri 10 Sep, 2004 01:28 am
Try:

There is a direct method for solving your "card shuffler" problem of 2/23/04 that doesn't require trial and error.

It can be seen from the state of the second shuffle that all cards are involved in a single cycle which must have length 13. Therefore, the deck will be restored to its original state after the 13th shuffle. After the 14th shuffle, the deck will be in the same state as after the 1st shuffle.

Reapplying the 'original deck'-to-'after the second shuffle' permutation six more times provides the state of the deck after 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, and 14 shuffles. The final state is the answer to the problem.
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Fri 10 Sep, 2004 04:43 am
Mark, "90 DEGREE TURN:
I almost said do a 270 as a joke!"

At first sight, it does seem ridicules. However, ?'almost' does not count. Smile

"There is a direct method for solving your "card shuffler" problem of 2/23/04 that doesn't require trial and error" Cool

Fresh mind, new insights. My thanks for your comments, I wonder how many more could benefit from some ?'fine tuning'? On the other hand, even ?'major surgery'?

"A farmer has 20 hens that he knows together will hatch 30 eggs every 18 days...etc"

Answer: It will still take 18 days to hatch an egg. :wink:

Therefore by this impeccable logic;
" If one woman can have a baby in 9 months, how many months does it take 9 women to have a baby?"

About the same time. :wink:

A man travel by car to a destination 25 miles away. The journey was made between 7 and 9am, so the roads were congested and progress was slow. The journey took 75 minutes, which means that his average speed was 20 miles per hour. He took the same route on the return and travelling in the middle of the day made faster time: his return journey lasted just 25 minutes, meaning that his average speed fro the return journey was 60 miles per hour.

What was his average speed for the two journeys combined Question

Throw it off of the tallest building and it will not break, throw it in the ocean and it will. What is it Question

You use a knife to slice my head, and weep beside me when I am dead. What am I Question


Based on the laws in the U.S. Constitution there are 5 requirements to become president of the U.S. The candidate must be at least 35; be a U.S. citizen; reside in the U.S. for 14 years; & be born in the U.S.

There is one more requirement, what is it Question
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Fri 10 Sep, 2004 07:50 am
MerlinsGodson wrote:
Approximately the same as exactly 3, 5, 7, 9, or 11 getting the wrong hat.


markr wrote:
Sorry, that's not correct.


Embarrassed

I should not dash off answers without thinking about the consequences.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Fri 10 Sep, 2004 08:02 am
Actual travel time, the average speed is 30 miles/hour.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Fri 10 Sep, 2004 08:39 am
Tryagain wrote:

Based on the laws in the U.S. Constitution there are 5 requirements to become president of the U.S. The candidate must be at least 35; be a U.S. citizen; reside in the U.S. for 14 years; & be born in the U.S.

There is one more requirement, what is it Question


I believe that you cannot have been convicted of a felony.

Also, the requirement is to be a "natural born" citizen, not born in the U.S. You are a natural born citizen if one of your parents is a citizen, even if you are born outside the United States.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Fri 10 Sep, 2004 08:46 am
Tryagain wrote:

You use a knife to slice my head, and weep beside me when I am dead. What am I Question


Doesn't matter if you're skinny
Doesn't matter if you're fat
You can dress up like a sultan
In your onion head hat Crying or Very sad
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Sat 11 Sep, 2004 04:41 am
Damn, you were supposed to say ?'40' but no, you had to spoil it by getting it right. :wink:

Merlin, "Actual travel time, the average speed is 30 miles/hour. " Cool

?'There is one more requirement, what is it?'

"I believe that you cannot have been convicted of a felony."
That may be right, but, this requirement is more obvious.

Onion riddle.

"Doesn't matter if you're skinny
Doesn't matter if you're fat
You can dress up like a sultan
In your onion head hat" Cool


What icon of 20th century design was the Chapman Root Glass Company of Indiana responsible for introducing in 1915 Question

What year when written in Roman numerals uniquely contains one each of the Roman number symbols in descending order Question

Does a bullet fired straight up into the air take longer to go up or to come down, or the same time, and why Question

How many different batting orders are possible in a team of eleven cricketers Question
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markr
 
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Reply Sat 11 Sep, 2004 09:57 am
Candidate must be alive.

CHAPMAN ROOT GLASS COMPANY
Coke bottle

MDCLXVI = 1666

BULLET
In a vacuum, same time. Otherwise, longer to come down if terminal velocity is lower than muzzle velocity.

CRICKET BATTING ORDERS
Since I don't know how many on the team are actually included in the batting order, I'll call that number N. The number of batting orders is 11!/(11-N)!
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Sat 11 Sep, 2004 10:21 am
Mark wrote.
"Candidate must be alive. Cool That is great. Also must win election.

CHAPMAN ROOT GLASS COMPANY
Coke bottle

MDCLXVI = 1666

BULLET
In a vacuum, same time. Otherwise, longer to come down if terminal velocity is lower than muzzle velocity.

CRICKET BATTING ORDERS
Since I don't know how many on the team are actually included in the batting order, I'll call that number N. The number of batting orders is 11!/(11-N)!

Nearly 40 million: the calculation is 11 x 10 x 9 x 8 x 7 x 6 x 5 x 4 x 3 x 2 x 1 = 39,916,800. Which for only 11 people is quite amazing.


Top 10 puzzle champion. BIG ***prize for best result.

For the first 4 puzzles, pretend you are an alien who had managed to learn the English language, but you do not know what significance the days of the week have. On which day of the week would you assume

1. You would cook a meal.

2. You would get paid.

3. You would get married.

4. It would be unusually bright.

5. If there are 4 empty seats in a movie theatre, how many combinations are there for the number of ways 4 people could sit in these seats?

6. There are 10 socks of each of the following colors in a drawer: blue, green, red, yellow & white, for a total of 50 socks. If the socks are randomly distributed in the drawer (i.e. not in pairs or any other grouping), & you are blindfolded, what is the minimum number socks you must draw from the drawer in order to be certain you have at least 2 socks of the same color?

7. If you are in the same situation as in the preceding problem, how many socks must you draw from the drawer in order to be certain you have at least 2 socks of different colors?

8. If none of the following statements are true, who can we conclude broke the vase?

Mike: Sally broke the vase.

Tom: Mike will tell you who broke the vase.

April: Tom, Mike & I could not have broken the vase.

Chris: I did not break the vase.

Erik: Mike broke the vase, so Tom & April couldn't have.

Jim: I broke the vase, so Tom is innocent.


9. Make a word from boas that can be used to keep you clean.

10. Decide what number comes next in this stately series: 4, 0, 3, 1, 0, 1, ?
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