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The worlds first riddle!

 
 
Stormwatch
 
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Reply Sun 2 Mar, 2008 12:30 pm
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Sun 2 Mar, 2008 01:32 pm
one word…..' is a complete idiot! Shocked

He meant, this one; is very difficult. It is of course one word inside another. Whilst punishment is considered your forbearance is appreciated.


Ps Stormy, your (new) word (to me) has me chewing my toe nails! Cool
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Stormwatch
 
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Reply Sun 2 Mar, 2008 03:00 pm
one word....Pffft... Rolling Eyes


ECNOLTD = not inclined


Do I hear Try chewing more then his toe nails now? Laughing
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Sun 2 Mar, 2008 05:01 pm
I wrote, "Get that; and I will eat my foot…"


Stormy:

one word....Pffft... (My bad!) Embarrassed


ECNOLTD = not inclined Cool Cool



True to my promise: …A foot long Subway Meatball Marinara on Honey Oat bread will be duly dispatched - delicious! :wink:




Rap's happiness is proportional to the function w2*c (w squared * c), where w stands for daily consumption of glasses of wine, and c stands of daily consumption of number of cigars.

Wine costs $3 a glass and cigars cost $2 each. His daily budget for both is $100.

How should he divide his money between wine and cigars to maximize his happiness Question


(Assume he does not have to buy integer numbers of either cigars or wine.)
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Izzie
 
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Reply Sun 2 Mar, 2008 05:13 pm
Stormwatch wrote:

Izzie I don't have to walk the plank for this do I?
Shocked


Oh no hun Smile

Will make the one legged, shoulder parrot-ed BlueBoy do that - that'll give us all a laugh when we saw off his "12 inch" wooden leg down to 6 inches a? Laughing

oooooh - SPLASH!
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Izzie
 
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Reply Sun 2 Mar, 2008 05:14 pm
Stormwatch wrote:

Izzie I don't have to walk the plank for this do I?
Shocked


Oh no hun Smile

Will make the one legged, shoulder parrot-ed BlueBoy do that - that'll give us all a laugh when we saw off his "12 inch" wooden leg down to 6 inches a? Laughing

oooooh - SPLASH!

(sure he will be smart-ing then!)
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raprap
 
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Reply Sun 2 Mar, 2008 07:40 pm
Tryagain wrote:
Rap's happiness is proportional to the function w2*c (w squared * c), where w stands for daily consumption of glasses of wine, and c stands of daily consumption of number of cigars.

Wine costs $3 a glass and cigars cost $2 each. His daily budget for both is $100.

How should he divide his money between wine and cigars to maximize his happiness Question


(Assume he does not have to buy integer numbers of either cigars or wine.)


[size=7]H=w^2c
100=3W+2c
differentiating
dH=2wcdw+w^2dc
setting differential for min/max
2wcDw+w^2dc
then dw/dc=-w/2c
other constraint
100=3w+2c
differentiating
0=3dw+2dc
dw/dc=-2/3
since de/dc=dw/dc then
-w/2c=-2/3
3w=4c at min/max
100=4c+2c=6c
then c=16 2/3 & w=22 2/9 at min/max
H=(22 2/9)^2*(16 2/3)=8230.45
is this max?
use c=16 then w=22 2/3
H=8220.44
since 8230.45>8220.44
then
22 2/9 glasses of wine and 16 2/3 cigars is a maximum
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but don't ask me to drive or breathe.

Rap
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Mon 3 Mar, 2008 09:41 am
Good morning folks, what do we have today?


Rap:

Rap's Happiness


H=w^2c
100=3W+2c
differentiating
dH=2wcdw+w^2dc
setting differential for min/max
2wcDw+w^2dc
then dw/dc=-w/2c
other constraint
100=3w+2c
differentiating
0=3dw+2dc
dw/dc=-2/3
since de/dc=dw/dc then
-w/2c=-2/3
3w=4c at min/max
100=4c+2c=6c
then c=16 2/3 & w=22 2/9 at min/max
H=(22 2/9)^2*(16 2/3)=8230.45
is this max?
use c=16 then w=22 2/3
H=8220.44
since 8230.45>8220.44
then
22 2/9 glasses of wine and 16 2/3 cigars is a maximum Cool Cool

but don't ask me to drive or breathe. Laughing





He should spend $66.67 on wine and $33.33 on cigars.

Let U=happiness.
U=w^2*c.
3*w + 2*c = 100.
c=(100-3w)/2.
U=w^2*(100-3w)/2.
dU/dw=2w*(100-3w)/2 + w^2*-3/2=0.
Solving for w yields w=200/9.

With wine costing $3 a glass this will cost 3*200/9=$66.67, leaving $33.33 for cigars, for which he can buy 16.67.

A2K disclaimer: Smoking and drinking can damage your health - seek proper medical advice. Do not go partying with Missmi!



Lzzie somewhat cheekily wrote, "that'll give us all a laugh when we saw off his "12 inch" wooden leg down to 6 inches a?"

I may have 12 inches, but I don't use it as a rule! Laughing

I have a laser line for that…..Timber…. Rolling Eyes




galarlminy Question


eald Question
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Izzie
 
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Reply Mon 3 Mar, 2008 09:47 am
alarmingly

leading

or denial!


(hey, that's what I see anyways!!!!! and I am so laughing - OK OK I'm still on the meds - nobody take me too serious please!)


so over to the Stormwatch or TTH to get the "right" answer! Laughing
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Mon 3 Mar, 2008 05:54 pm
Lzzie:

alarlminy = Alarmingly Cool


Well, that's what I meant!




A box contains two coins. One coin is heads on both sides and the other is heads on one side and tails on the other.

One coin is selected from the box at random and the face of one side is observed.

If the face is heads, what is the probability that the other side is also heads Question
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markr
 
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Reply Mon 3 Mar, 2008 11:11 pm
COINS
[size=7]2/3[/size]
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Tue 4 Mar, 2008 11:27 am
Mark:

COINS
2/3 Cool / Cool



It is true I assure you:

Perhaps the best way to demonstrate that 2/3 is the correct answer to this problem is to approach it in a simple intuitive manner, such as:

Denote the double headed coin A and the regular coin B. Further, denote
the sides of the double headed coin A1 (a head) and A2 (another head), and the sides of the regular coin B1 (a head) and B2 (a tail).

We then have the following possible outcomes:

Code:


coin selected side shown other side
A A1 (H) A2 (H)
A A2 (H) A1 (H)
B B1 (H) B2 (T)
B B2 (T) B1 (H)





We exclude the last possibility from consideration since it is not a head.
Three possibilities remain, all equally likely, two of which have a head on
the other side. The required probability is thus 2/3.





tsuiitmpivlee Question
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Izzie
 
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Reply Tue 4 Mar, 2008 11:34 am
simple intuitive?
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Jovana
 
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Reply Tue 4 Mar, 2008 05:12 pm
Hi Try,,, it's me etc. Smile,,, how are you?
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Tue 4 Mar, 2008 05:49 pm
Lzzie:

Tsuiitmpivlee = simple intuitive Cool

We have today's winner! Razz



Hi Jo, etc; I am keeping one step ahead of the law! How about yourself?





Given a fair coin with probability p of landing on heads after a flip, what is the probability that the number of heads will ever equal the number of tails assuming an infinite number of flips Question
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solipsister
 
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Reply Tue 4 Mar, 2008 10:23 pm
One tries
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Tryst
 
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Reply Wed 5 Mar, 2008 02:43 pm
Slippy writes, "One tries"

I think she may well be right.
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Wed 5 Mar, 2008 02:56 pm
Welcome to the forum Tryst, would you care to elaborate on your observation?
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Wed 5 Mar, 2008 05:31 pm
In the absence of Tryst:

The answer is 2*min(p,1-p).

Think of this problem instead as one of a random walk along a number line. Let 0 be the starting point, p be the probability of moving to the right, and q be the probability of moving to the left.

Let B=probability of ever moving one to the left from where you are.
Let A=probability of revisiting current square from the right.

B = q + Aq + A^2q + A^3q + ... = q/(1-A).
A=pB --> B=A/p --> B=A/(1-q).
q/(1-A) = A/(1-q) --> A=q,1-q.

However, A must be less than or equal to both p and q, thus the reasonable solution is A=min(q,1-q).

Redo the above only reverse the words left and right and A will still equal min(q,1-q). One ramification of this is that the probability of revisiting 0 is the same from both the left as the right. This stands to reason since any path has a mirror image on the other side of equal probability. So the answer is 2*min(q,1-q). Where I am a little uncomfortable is dismissing the other solution of A. I believe I can do so but cannot put into words why.

Below are the results of computer trials which have verified the answer above. For each probability p 100,000 trials were conducted, in which a trial ended when either the number of heads equalled the number of tails, or the difference was more than 25. It seems reasonable to assume that for p<=.4 if the difference ever equals 25 it is very unlikely that the gap ever be closed.

A 'win' means the number of heads was ever equal to the number of tails. The number of losses would be 100,000 minus the number of wins.

Code:
p wins
----- ------
0.4 80058
0.3 59799
0.2 39957
0.1 19803



Looks like Slippy was on the right track after all! Razz




You are the foreman in charge of license plate production. Your equipment can produce two different gauges of steel, one weighing about 90% of the other.

Normally you use the heavier gauge but one week you leave that responsibility to someone else who sets the gauge randomly every day. After a week you realize that some days the license plates may have been made of the lighter gauge steel.

Every days license plates are kept in separate piles. You may use a digital scale once which will give an exact weight of whatever you decide to weigh.

Assume that the heavy gauge license plates weigh 1 unit each and the light ones 0.9 units each. You may use the scale only once.

What do you do Question
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raprap
 
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Reply Wed 5 Mar, 2008 06:15 pm
[size=7]seven--one from each day---weight of plates is n*.09+(7-n)*1=7-.1*n[/size]

Rap
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