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The worlds first riddle!

 
 
markr
 
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Reply Mon 25 Feb, 2008 08:10 pm
1620
[size=7]b = cbrt[1620 / (3*4*5)] * 4 = 12[/size]

PIZZA
[size=7]Using standard pizza-cutting methods, you can get (n^2 + n + 2)/2 pieces with n cuts.[/size]
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Tue 26 Feb, 2008 07:11 am
Always be a first rate version of your self instead of a second rate version of someone else. I took to the life of a cowboy like a horse takes to oats. But then it's easier to get an actor to be a cowboy than to get a cowboy to be an actor.



Rap:

If you can fold or stack the pizza, you can double the pieces with every cut, so with 6 cuts you should get 2^6 (64) pieces. In general you can use this technique for 2^n pieces for n cuts.

I can see that.


Mark:


PIZZA
Using standard pizza-cutting methods, you can get (n^2 + n + 2)/2 pieces with n cuts.


I dont wanna split hairs here:

Would you say we all agree: (1/2)n^2 + (1/2)n + 1 will do nicely!



1620
b = cbrt[1620 / (3*4*5)] * 4 = 12 Cool



Slippy scripted, "Extending camping blamed for B vitamin deficiency.

Not the 9 o'clock news."



You crack me up! Laughing




abablome Question

tabhse Question
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TTH
 
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Reply Tue 26 Feb, 2008 11:01 am
Tryagain wrote:
abablome Question
abominable
Tryagain wrote:
tabhse Question
absinthe?
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raprap
 
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Reply Tue 26 Feb, 2008 05:05 pm
My goof! a,b & c are 9, 12 & 15---I wrongly answered a.

Rap
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Tue 26 Feb, 2008 06:01 pm
TTH:

abablome = abominable Cool
tabhse = absinthe Cool

What a wonder you are! Razz


Don't worry Rap it's me. I ask the wrong questions! Laughing



For the set of numbers {30, 80, 50, 40, x}, the mean, mode, and median are all equal.

Find x Question




A three-digit number is selected at random from all three-digit numbers 100 through 999.

What is the probability that the number selected is a perfect square Question
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raprap
 
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Reply Tue 26 Feb, 2008 07:05 pm
[size=7]x=50
for x to be mode there has top be more than one entry
for x to be median then x is either 40 or 50
if x=40 mean is 48, if x=50 mean is 50

There are 22 numbers between 100 and 999 (inclusive) that are perfect squares
There are 900 three digit numbers between 100 and 999 inclusive
the odds of randomly picking a three digit number is 22/900.
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Rap
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Wed 27 Feb, 2008 11:24 am
Rap does it again!

x=50 Cool
for x to be mode there has top be more than one entry
for x to be median then x is either 40 or 50
if x=40 mean is 48, if x=50 mean is 50


There are 22 numbers between 100 and 999 (inclusive) that are perfect squares.
There are 900 three digit numbers between 100 and 999 inclusive
the odds of randomly picking a three digit number is 22/900. Cool



BFARMIELAYD Question



CLTUOTSALIVLYE Question
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Stormwatch
 
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Reply Wed 27 Feb, 2008 01:08 pm
BFARMIELAYD =inbre(a)d family? ( is that wheat or rye?) Laughing



CLTUOTSALIVLYE = totally inclusive
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Wed 27 Feb, 2008 06:45 pm
Stormy:

BFARMIELAYD =inbre(a)d family? ( is that wheat or rye?) Cool Laughing

Thank goodness you found the missing A you just can't get the staff nowadays! Rolling Eyes

CLTUOTSALIVLYE = totally inclusive Cool



One morning is starts to snow out at Stormy's place, at a constant rate. Later, at 6:00am, a snow plow sets out to clear a straight street.

The plow can remove a fixed volume of snow per unit time, in other words its speed it inversely proportional to the depth of the snow.

If the plow covered twice as much distance in the first hour as the second hour, what time did it start snowing Question
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markr
 
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Reply Wed 27 Feb, 2008 08:43 pm
SNOW PLOW

[size=7]t = the number of hours it's been snowing at 6:00
log(t+1) - log(t) = 2*[log(t+2) - log(t+1)]
log((t+1)/t) = 2*log((t+2)/(t+1))
(t+1)/t = [(t+2)/(t+1)]^2
t^2 + t - 1 = 0
t = [-1 + sqrt(5)] / 2 = 0.618034
It's been snowing for 37.082039 minutes, which is about 37 minutes and 4.9 seconds.
So, it started snowing at 5:22:55.1 a.m., or I did this wrong.
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raprap
 
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Reply Wed 27 Feb, 2008 09:17 pm
[size=7]The way I'm figgerin it the volume of snow removed is a constant (Q) equal to the product of depth and velocity(v). The snow depth, the is the product of the rate (in/hr--m) and the time since it started snowing (t), or
Q=v*m*t (1)
Now using the condition that the truck started plowing at to and that in the first hour (to+1) the truck traveled twice as far in the second hour (to+2) as the first.
Rearranging (1) to isolate the velocity
v=Q/(mt) the distance the plow traveled in a set period of time (d) is the integral with respect to time. Or
d={vdt={(Q/(mt))dt Note I'm using { as an integral sign
and since Q and m are constants then
d={(Q/(mt))dt=Q/m{dt/t=q/mln(t)+Co where Co is a constant of integration
now using the condition that the distance the first hour (between to and to+1) is twice the distance the second hour (between to+1 and to+2)
or 2Q/m[ln(to+1)-ln(to)]=Q/m[ln(to+2)-ln(to+1)]
since Q & m <>0 then
2[ln(to+1)-ln(to)]=[ln(to+2)-ln(to+1)]
rearranging
(to+1)^2/to^2=(to+2)/(to+1)
so
(to+1)^3=to^2(to+2)
to^3+3to^2+3to+1=to^3+2to^2
resulting in the quadratic
to^2+3to+1=0
solutions to=(-3+/-sqrt(5))/2
to=-2.61803 hrs~-2hrs, 37 min, 5 sec before 6:00 (3:22:55 AM)
or
to=-0.38197 hrs~22 min, 55 sec before 6:00 (5:37:05 AM)
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Rap
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raprap
 
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Reply Wed 27 Feb, 2008 10:04 pm
[size=7]No No No! there's only one answer. But everything in my first post is right to here
_____________________________________________________
now using the condition that the distance the first hour (between to and to+1) is twice the distance the second hour (between to+1 and to+2)
or Q/m[ln(to+1)-ln(to)]=2Q/m[ln(to+2)-ln(to+1)]
since Q & m <>0 then
[ln(to+1)-ln(to)]=2[ln(to+2)-ln(to+1)]
rearranging
(to+1)/to=(to+2)^2/(to+1)^2
so
(to+1)^3=to(to+2)^2
to^3+3to^2+3to+1=to^3+4to^2+4to
resulting in the quadratic
to^2+to-1=0
solutions are
to=(-1+/-sqrt(5))/2
crunching #
to= 0.618034 hrs
and
to= -1.61803 hrs
since the snow started before plowing the negative answer doesn't pass the sanity test and the snow started 0.61803 hrs before plowing started.
Plowing started at 6:00 AM so the snow started at 5:23:55.89 AM.
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Rap
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thoh13
 
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Reply Wed 27 Feb, 2008 11:37 pm
SNOW
i think ur BOTH wrong haha

[size=7]
it starts snowing at some time before 6am (time 0)
that time is y hrs before time 0
the plow will plow a distance of 3x
at 6am, the volume of snow is (3x)(y) - a rectangle
the snow keeps building up at a constant rate ahead of the plow, forming a triangle of base 3x and height 2 hrs (2) on top of the rectangle
the area of the trapezoid formed by distance 2x = area formed by last x
[y+(1+y)]*(2x)/2 = [(1+y)+(2+y)]*(x)/2....x's cancel
2y+1 = (3+2y)/2
4y+2 = 3+2y
2y=1
y= 1/2
it started snowing half hr before 6am or 5:30am
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solipsister
 
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Reply Thu 28 Feb, 2008 03:01 am
5 root 2 minus 1 over 2 before 6

I had a bit part in the movie
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Thu 28 Feb, 2008 08:02 am
Rise and shine the weathers fineĀ…


Mark:

SNOW PLOW

t = the number of hours it's been snowing at 6:00
log(t+1) - log(t) = 2*[log(t+2) - log(t+1)]
log((t+1)/t) = 2*log((t+2)/(t+1))
(t+1)/t = [(t+2)/(t+1)]^2
t^2 + t - 1 = 0
t = [-1 + sqrt(5)] / 2 = 0.618034
It's been snowing for 37.082039 minutes, which is about 37 minutes and 4.9 seconds.
So, it started snowing at 5:22:55.1 a.m., or I did this wrong.


Rap:

The way I'm figgerin it the volume of snow removed is a constant (Q) equal to the product of depth and velocity(v). The snow depth, the is the product of the rate (in/hr--m) and the time since it started snowing (t), or
Q=v*m*t (1)
Now using the condition that the truck started plowing at to and that in the first hour (to+1) the truck traveled twice as far in the second hour (to+2) as the first.
Rearranging (1) to isolate the velocity
v=Q/(mt) the distance the plow traveled in a set period of time (d) is the integral with respect to time. Or
d={vdt={(Q/(mt))dt Note I'm using { as an integral sign
and since Q and m are constants then
d={(Q/(mt))dt=Q/m{dt/t=q/mln(t)+Co where Co is a constant of integration
now using the condition that the distance the first hour (between to and to+1) is twice the distance the second hour (between to+1 and to+2)
or 2Q/m[ln(to+1)-ln(to)]=Q/m[ln(to+2)-ln(to+1)]
since Q & m <>0 then
2[ln(to+1)-ln(to)]=[ln(to+2)-ln(to+1)]
rearranging
(to+1)^2/to^2=(to+2)/(to+1)
so
(to+1)^3=to^2(to+2)
to^3+3to^2+3to+1=to^3+2to^2
resulting in the quadratic
to^2+3to+1=0
solutions to=(-3+/-sqrt(5))/2
to=-2.61803 hrs~-2hrs, 37 min, 5 sec before 6:00 (3:22:55 AM)
or
to=-0.38197 hrs~22 min, 55 sec before 6:00 (5:37:05 AM)


No No No! there's only one answer. But everything in my first post is right to here
_____________________________________________________
now using the condition that the distance the first hour (between to and to+1) is twice the distance the second hour (between to+1 and to+2)
or Q/m[ln(to+1)-ln(to)]=2Q/m[ln(to+2)-ln(to+1)]
since Q & m <>0 then
[ln(to+1)-ln(to)]=2[ln(to+2)-ln(to+1)]
rearranging
(to+1)/to=(to+2)^2/(to+1)^2
so
(to+1)^3=to(to+2)^2
to^3+3to^2+3to+1=to^3+4to^2+4to
resulting in the quadratic
to^2+to-1=0
solutions are
to=(-1+/-sqrt(5))/2
crunching #
to= 0.618034 hrs
and
to= -1.61803 hrs
since the snow started before plowing the negative answer doesn't pass the sanity test and the snow started 0.61803 hrs before plowing started.
Plowing started at 6:00 AM so the snow started at 5:23:55.89 AM.


Thoh:

SNOW
i think ur BOTH wrong haha


it starts snowing at some time before 6am (time 0)
that time is y hrs before time 0
the plow will plow a distance of 3x
at 6am, the volume of snow is (3x)(y) - a rectangle
the snow keeps building up at a constant rate ahead of the plow, forming a triangle of base 3x and height 2 hrs (2) on top of the rectangle
the area of the trapezoid formed by distance 2x = area formed by last x
[y+(1+y)]*(2x)/2 = [(1+y)+(2+y)]*(x)/2....x's cancel
2y+1 = (3+2y)/2
4y+2 = 3+2y
2y=1
y= 1/2
it started snowing half hr before 6am or 5:30am


Slippy:
5 root 2 minus 1 over 2 before 6

I had a bit part in the movie Laughing



Isn't it great to see four keen minds at work, and the different ways to produce an answer. Ok, so who is right?

Let the depth of snow at time t to be t units. The speed of the plow at time t will be 1/t. Define t=0 as the time it started snowing and t=x the time the plow started.

The distance covered in the first hour is the integral from x to x+1 of 1/t dt. The antiderivative of 1/t is ln(t) so the total distance covered in the first hour is ln((x+1)/x).

By the same reasoning the distance covered in the second hour in ln((x+2)/(x+1)).

Using the fact that it the plow traveled twice as far in the first hour as the second: ln((x+1)/x) = ln((x+2)/(x+1))^2
Exp both sides and you have (x+1)/x = ((x+2)/(x+1))^2.

Solving for x you get x=(5^1/2-1)/2, which is the number of hours that elapsed between the time it started snowing and the snow plow left.

Or in English we say: It started snowing at (5^1/2-1)/2 hours before 6:00am, or 5:22:55am.

Amazing answers all: Cool Cool Cool Cool

The problem was taken from the Actuarial Review



KCLS Question


echeseks Question
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thoh13
 
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Reply Thu 28 Feb, 2008 08:17 am
Tryagain wrote:

Or in English we say: It started snowing at (5^1/2-1)/2 hours before 6:00am, or 5:22:55am.


BOO!!!! so whats wrong w/ my geometric solution? the snow will form a curve, and not a triangle, right? ::sigh::
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Stormwatch
 
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Reply Thu 28 Feb, 2008 09:03 am
KCLS = clinks


echeseks = cheekiness
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raprap
 
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Reply Thu 28 Feb, 2008 10:00 am
Additional Snow Problem

The snow problem solution is one of the solutions of 1/f=1+f..

Consequently the name of the snow plow company must be "Fibonacci Snow Removal".

Rap
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raprap
 
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Reply Thu 28 Feb, 2008 10:02 am
Additional Snow Problem

The snow problem solution is one of the solutions of 1/f=1+f..

Consequently the name of the snow plow company must be "Fibonacci Snow Removal".

Rap
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Thu 28 Feb, 2008 06:16 pm
Thoh wrote, "BOO!!!! so whats wrong w/ my geometric solution? the snow will form a curve, and not a triangle, right? ::sigh::"

I know the world is not fair, but your answer still holds good for the way you presented it. Who knows, maybe one of the others will support it!


Stormy:

KCLS = clinks Cool


echeseks = cheekiness Cool



Hey Rap, that is a lot of snow! Laughing



Here's a variation of Thoh's river crossing:

Three soldiers have to cross a river without a bridge. Two boys with a boat agree to help the soldiers, but the boat is so small it can support only one soldier or two boys. A soldier and a boy can't be in the boat at the same time for fear of sinking it.

Given that none of the soldiers can swim, it would seem that in these circumstances just one soldier could cross the river. Yet all three soldiers eventually end up on the other bank and return the boat to the boys.

How do they do it Question



There are 87 marbles in a bag and 68 of them are red. If one marble is chosen, what is the probability that it will be red Question
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