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The worlds first riddle!

 
 
mismi
 
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Reply Tue 4 Dec, 2007 04:50 pm
TehMeh wrote:
Tryagain wrote:
APBRCALALDE Question


Could it be...

Arcade Pinball?

P.S.: Thanks every for the support and various other self-esteem raising comments Very Happy


yes! That has to be it....oh and your welcome Very Happy


Try - really too funny - shakin' your groove thang... Laughing sexay - yow
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Tue 4 Dec, 2007 06:11 pm
TTH:

PETWAKS = twin peaks Cool

Sweet! Razz


TehMeh:

APBRCALALDE = Arcade Pinball Cool

Damn!....I mean, dang good call! Very Happy


I was on my way to pole dancing classes when I thought; what would happen if you:
Divide the integers 1 to 12 into two groups in such a way that the sum of the cubes of the integers in each group is identical.

Then transfer as few integers as possible between the groups to create two new groups in which the sum of the squares of the integers in each group is identical.

Then transfer as few integers as possible between the new groups to create two even newer groups in which the sum of the integers in each group is identical.

At any stage the number of integers in each group does not have to be identical.

Which integers did you transfer to create:

(1) The new groups Question and
(2) The even newer groups Question
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solipsister
 
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Reply Tue 4 Dec, 2007 08:54 pm
Tryagain wrote:

I was on my way to pole dancing classes when I thought; what would happen if you: Question


prove, almost conclusively, that:

The sum of (X^4) minus (Y^4) is not equal to 0 for all integers X,Y between 1 and 12 by inference?

Then, muchly later that day:

"Quod erat demonstrandum" hail the cheering onlookers.
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markr
 
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Reply Wed 5 Dec, 2007 12:38 am
GROUPS
[size=7]How about...
cubes: (1,2,4,8,9,12), (3,5,6,7,10,11)
squares: (1,4,8,10,12), (2,3,5,6,7,9,11) moved (2,9,10)
integers: (4,5,8,10,12), (1,2,3,6,7,9,11) moved (1,5)
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Wed 5 Dec, 2007 08:02 am
Mark:

GROUPS
How about...

cubes: (1,2,4,8,9,12), Cool (3,5,6,7,10,11) Cool
squares: (1,4,8,10,12), (2,3,5,6,7,9,11) moved (2,9,10) Cool Cool Cool
integers: (4,5,8,10,12), (1,2,3,6,7,9,11) moved (1,5) Cool Cool



Yeah, how about it! Let me consult my notes…


Each group of cubes must equal 3042
Each group of squares must equal 325
Each group of integers must equal 39

So now the difficult bit. Finding the two groups of cubed integers that add up to 3042. For a start, we know that 1728 + 1331 > 3042, therefore, those two numbers are in separate groups. The 1000 can't go with 1728, because that leaves 314 to make from the remaining integers and it is not possible. And with a bit of trial and error, I managed to get these figures to work. One group is 1728, 729, 512, 64, 8, 1 which uses the integers 12, 9, 8, 4, 2, 1. The second group is 1331, 1000, 343, 216, 125, 27 which uses the integers 11, 10, 7, 6, 5, 3.

Next up is to move as few integers as possible so that the squares of the integers in each group are equal. First off, with the existing groups, take a look at what the sum of the squares are. The first group adds up to 310, and the second to 340. The number we are looking for them to equal is 325. You can't make 15 from any 2 numbers, so what we are most likely looking for is to move a minimum of 3 integers. 2 integers from one side and one from the other would be ideal. So we look at the squares, and for each square, we see if a number that is 15 less can be made up from 2 other integers. And it can. We can use integer 10 as 100, and 15 less is 85, which can be made from integers 9 and 2 which are 81 and 4 respectively. So we can move the 10 over to group 1 and move the 9 and the 2 over to group 2. So we now have:

Group 1: 1, 4, 8, 10, 12
Group 2: 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 9, 11

Both of those groups add up to 325 using squares of the integers.
Next job is again move as few integers as possible so that the sums of the integers themselves in each group are equal, in this case 39. If we take a look at what each group currently adds up to. Group 1 is 35 and group 2 is 43. So we take a look at the two groups and see if there is a number in group 2 that is exactly 4 higher than a number in group 1. There is, the integer 5, which we can swap with integer 1 from group 1, which leaves us finally with this:

Group 1: 4, 5, 8, 10, 12
Group 2: 1, 2, 3, 6, 7, 9, 11

And so to answer the original question is not necessary, as Mark has done that. Razz




Sister Act wrote, "Prove the sum of (X^4) minus (Y^4) is not equal to 0 for all integers X,Y between 1 and 12 by inference?"


How you been keeping toots, slow day at the office?


Let x be one number.
Let y be the second #.

2x+3y=-14(if its -14)
x-3=y
Now, you substitute the value of y, x-3, into 2x+3y=-14
y=x-3
2x+ 3(x-3)=-14
2x+3x-9=-14
5x=-5
x=-1

y=-1-3
y=-4

Value of x is -1
Value of y, the second # is -4. Q.E.D. :wink:

Now, do you wanna strut yo stuff, how about a twirl round my pole? Laughing




I have a good feeling about today's offering:


GBRATRMAAE Question (Three words)


AFAPLALRGT Question
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TTH
 
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Reply Wed 5 Dec, 2007 11:31 am
Tryagain wrote:
Now, do you wanna strut yo stuff, how about a twirl round my pole? Laughing
Shocked Laughing Laughing
Tryagain wrote:
AFAPLALRGT Question
falling apart....not me, I don't break Very Happy
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Wed 5 Dec, 2007 05:14 pm
TTH:

AFAPLALRGT = falling apart Cool Laughing


Whilst walking on over to Cripple Creek hoping to strike it lucky at the former gold mining camp, I got to a thinking! If we assume that 5 miles = 8 kilometres what is the smallest integral number of miles that can be converted to its equivalent integral number of kilometres simply by rearranging the order of the digits of the number Question
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Stormwatch
 
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Reply Wed 5 Dec, 2007 08:57 pm
GBRATRMAAE= train brain game
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markr
 
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Reply Wed 5 Dec, 2007 10:33 pm
CRIPPLE CREEK
[size=7]0 miles equals 0 kilometers (rearranging is trivial)

But, knowing you, you're probably looking for:
1260 miles equals 2016 kilometers
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TTH
 
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Reply Wed 5 Dec, 2007 11:06 pm
Good one Stormwatch Very Happy
I had the same thing but, I didn't post it knowing it would generate a Laughing

Good one mark Very Happy
I was going to say 0 but, I figured he wouldn't go for that. I did the calc. by hand and got as far as in the 400 range before I gave up Sad
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TTH
 
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Reply Wed 5 Dec, 2007 11:09 pm
Oh, I did double check your answer mark....
1260/.625=2016 Very Happy
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Thu 6 Dec, 2007 06:29 am
Stormwatch wrote:
GBRATRMAAE= train brain game



Fantastic answer! Cool Cool Cool
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Thu 6 Dec, 2007 09:29 am
Ok, don't worry; I'm back. I would like to say a big thank you to the guys for keeping the show in the road in my absence; so without further ado…



Mark:

CRIPPLE CREEK
0 miles equals 0 kilometers (rearranging is trivial) Shocked

But, knowing you, you're probably looking for:
1260 miles equals 2016 kilometers Cool Cool


Lot's more carefree laughter
Silence never after
Walking through an empty house, tears in my eyes
Here is where the story starts, this is goodmorning!

Knowing me, knowing you (ah-haa)
There is nothing we can do
Knowing me, knowing you (ah-haa)
We just have to face it, this time were through
(this time were through, this time were through
This time were through, were really through)
Breaking up is never easy, I know but I have to go
(I have to go this time
I have to go, this time I know)
Knowing me, knowing you
Its the best I can do…


TTH also had all the answers and did corroborate Marks answer (1260/.625=2016) Laughing




ADNELSIWGHETR Question


ODISUAPTPOCOTMEDE Question
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mismi
 
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Reply Thu 6 Dec, 2007 09:31 am
Were you gone? Razz
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Thu 6 Dec, 2007 10:33 am
Did you Miss me? Very Happy
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mismi
 
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Reply Thu 6 Dec, 2007 10:37 am
apparently not! Laughing :wink: Razz
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Thu 6 Dec, 2007 10:50 am
You're such a card! Laughing
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markr
 
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Reply Thu 6 Dec, 2007 10:54 am
ADNELSIWGHETR
[size=7]delightful answer[/size]
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markr
 
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Reply Thu 6 Dec, 2007 10:56 am
ODISUAPTPOCOTMEDE
[size=7]disappointed outcome[/size]
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mismi
 
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Reply Thu 6 Dec, 2007 11:20 am
Tryagain wrote:
You're such a card! Laughing


Really?

Of course I miss you when you are gone...just like you miss me Razz
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