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The worlds first riddle!

 
 
markr
 
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Reply Fri 18 May, 2007 02:42 pm
etc wrote:
Hi Try,,, i had a dream that all Evil Heathens didn't have the luxury of a floor or walls,,, and they were petrified constantly,,, and that's how they live forever. Can you imagine that? It made me prey.


That's unfortunate. To what predator are you prey?
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thoh13
 
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Reply Fri 18 May, 2007 03:17 pm
Similar to Try's rope problem....

A 1000 ft long metal beam is laid horizontally on the ground and bolted at both ends. The hot sun expands the beam by exactly 1 ft, but being bolted down, the beam buckles (to form an arc). What's the furthest from the ground it buckles?
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TTH
 
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Reply Fri 18 May, 2007 03:19 pm
markr wrote:
etc wrote:
Hi Try,,, i had a dream that all Evil Heathens didn't have the luxury of a floor or walls,,, and they were petrified constantly,,, and that's how they live forever. Can you imagine that? It made me prey.

That's unfortunate. To what predator are you prey?

thoh13 wrote:
Similar to Try's rope problem....
A 1000 ft long metal beam is laid horizontally on the ground and bolted at both ends. The hot sun expands the beam by exactly 1 ft, but being bolted down, the beam buckles (to form an arc). What's the furthest from the ground it buckles?

Just watching Shocked and laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Fri 18 May, 2007 04:15 pm
Francis:

Thedevilbetweenandthedeepbluesea = Well, now we are between Scylla and Charybdis Laughing Laughing


TTH:

How many Forums took part in the race?

11 Cool Cool

Why yes, there are eleven Forums.

As Etc finished in middle position we know that there must be an odd number of runners in the race, but because there are three people representing each forum, the number of runners must be an odd multiple of three.

In addition, we know that Francis, who finished 28th, was not last, as there is an odd number of runners. So there must be at least 29 runners.

If there were 33 runners, the middle position would be 17th.
If there were 39 runners, the middle position would be 20th.

However, we are told that TTH, who finished 19th, finished after Etc.
Hence there must have been 33 runners in the race and we deduce that eleven forums must have taken part.

Well done TTH! Razz


mriignhtd……………………………………..> mriiingnhtd = right minds Cool

thedevilbetweenandthedeepbluesea = between the devil and the deep blue sea Cool

HSEINLL
IT is not in shell Laughing
You thought I was going to write the right answer, huh?



Thoh:

SMAURPEYRCALPIFROAGPILISTPICEXPIALIDOSCIOUS = mary popp(in)s supercalifragilisticexpialidocious Cool



Thoh:

Quote:

etselieks

elnsngths
is anyone solving these?



No, but still trying! Embarrassed


Mark

Quote:


To what predator are you prey?

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Stormwatch
 
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Reply Fri 18 May, 2007 04:38 pm
Perftec
Perfetc
Perfcet = imperfections


Roger
+ out = Roger over and out
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markr
 
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Reply Fri 18 May, 2007 05:09 pm
thoh13's beam
[size=8]19.3678 feet (well hung!)

Confession: I resorted to iteration in Excel to solve 500.5*sinx = 500*x.
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Fri 18 May, 2007 05:32 pm
Beam

[size=7]20.6036 feet[/size]


[size=7]Confession; maybe I should have gone along with Mark! [/size] Laughing
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thoh13
 
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Reply Fri 18 May, 2007 09:44 pm
my beam:

confession: i don't know the answer. i tried to derive a formula for the height given the chord and arc length but i didn't get what i wanted Embarrassed i was waiting for mark
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thoh13
 
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Reply Fri 18 May, 2007 09:49 pm
Tryagain wrote:
According to the Barbie web site, "this one doll is a $1.9 billion a year industry, with two Barbies being bought every second."

What is the average cost of one Barbie, given the information above Question


# of seconds in a year (assuming year is 365.25 days): 31557600
# of dolls sold in a year: 63115200
price per doll: $1 900 000 000 / 63115200 dolls = $30.10
im guessing they rounded to exactly $30.
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Sat 19 May, 2007 06:24 am
Thoh's half baked beam

Quote:


confession: i don't know the answer






Listen you….. if I ever get hold of you I'm gonna rip your head off and s……no wait;

"i was waiting for mark"

Well, in that case pull up a seat and have a beer. I am waiting for Pythagoras:


Three integers a, b, and c that satisfy a2 + b2 = c2 are called Pythagorean Triples. There are infinitely many such numbers and there also exists a way to generate all the triples. Let n and m be integers, n>m. Then define

(*) a = n2 - m2, b = 2nm, c = n2 + m2.

The three number a, b, and c always form a Pythagorean triple. The proof is simple:

(n2 - m2)2 + (2mn)2 = n4 - 2n2m2 + m4 + 4n2m2
= n4 + 2n2m2 + m4
= (n2 + m2)2.


The formulas were known to Euclid and used by Diophantus to obtain Pythagorean triples with special properties. However, he never raised the question whether in this way one can obtain all possible triples.

The fact is that for m and n coprime of different parities, (*) yields coprime numbers a, b, and c. Conversely, all coprime triples can indeed be obtained in this manner. All others are multiples of coprime triples: ka, kb, kc.

As an aside, those who mastered the arithmetic of complex numbers might have noticed that

(n + im)2 = (n2 - m2) + i2mn.

Which probably indicates that (*) has a source in trigonometry. But the proof below only uses simple geometry and algebra.

First of all, note that if a2 + b2 = c2, then (a/c)2 + (b/c)2 = 1. With x = a/c and y = b/c we get x2 + y2 = 1. This is the well known equation of the unit circle with center at the origin. Finding Pythagorean triples is therefore equivalent to locating rational points (i.e., points (x,y) for which both x and y are rational) on the unit circle. For if (p/q)2 + (r/s)2 = 1, multiplication by a common denominator leads to an identity between integers.

Rational numbers approximate irrational to any degree of accuracy. Therefore, the set of rational pairs is dense in the whole plane. So, perhaps, one might expect that any curve should contain a lot of rational pairs or meander wildly to avoid them. But this is not the case. The recent proof of Fermat's Last Theorem lets us claim that the curves xN + yN = 1 with N>2 contain no rational points (except of course for the trivial ones - (0, 1) and (1, 0).) But there are simpler examples.

From Lindemann's theorem, we conclude that the graph of a perfectly smooth function y = ex contains a single rational point, (0,1). Moreover, pulling the unit circle even a little aside may change the picture drastically. Let (xk, yk) = (2/k, 3/k), and consider a unit circle with center at (xk, yk). As k grows, the point approaches the origin, but for no k, such a circle contains a rational point.

Let t be defined by

(1) t = y/(x+1).

Then t(x+1) = y and

t2(x + 1)2 = y2 = 1 - x2 = (1 + x)(1 - x).

We are not interested in negative x. So let's cancel (1+x) on both sides. The result is

t2(x + 1) = (1 - x).

Solving for x we get

(2) x = (1 - t2)/(1 + t2)

From y = t(1+x) we also obtain

(3) y = 2t/(1 + t2)

Formulas (1)-(3) show that t is rational iff both x and y are rational.



What more needs to be said read it and weep. Laughing





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Francis
 
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Reply Sat 19 May, 2007 07:35 am
Tryagain wrote:
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Even before the beers?
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Sat 19 May, 2007 02:15 pm
Stormy:

Perftec
Perfetc
Perfcet = imperfections Cool


I should have set it up as:

1. Perftec
1. Perfetc
1. Perfcet = No ones perfect! Laughing



Roger
+ out = Roger over and out Cool


Francis:

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Achilles runs a race with Mark. He runs ten times as fast as the Mark. To even it up a bit Mark has 100 yards' start.

Now, says Plato, Achilles runs 100 yards and reaches the place where Mark started. Meanwhile Mark has gone a tenth as far as Achilles, and is therefore 10 yards ahead of Achilles. Achilles runs this 10 yards.

Meanwhile Mark has run a tenth as far as Achilles, and is therefore 1 yard in front of him. Achilles runs this 1 yard. Meanwhile Mark has run a tenth of a yard, and is therefore still a tenth of a yard in front of Achilles.

Achilles runs this tenth of a yard. Meanwhile Mark goes a tenth of a tenth of a yard. He is now a hundredth of a yard in front of Achilles and sounding like "A Puffing Southern Beauty." Of the old Southern Railway SR # 4501 2-8-2 Markado was built by Baldwin Works in 1911. It is said, it was the first "Mark" under steam in the Southland. So…..

Do you think that Achilles ever catches Mark Question



Confession: I do have an answer to this question. Laughing






Thought 1
Thought 2
Thought 3…. Question





^^^^^^^^^ Question
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Francis
 
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Reply Sat 19 May, 2007 02:31 pm
Tryagain wrote:
Do you think that Achilles ever catches Mark Question



Confession: I do have an answer to this question. Laughing


Zenon of Elea, too, had it...
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thoh13
 
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Reply Sat 19 May, 2007 03:59 pm
Tryagain wrote:
Do you think that Achilles ever catches Mark Question


[size=7]yes...lets say achilles runs 120 yards from the start...then mark only runs 12...so achilles is already 8 yards in front of mark (120-(100+12))...achilles will overtake mark after running 111 1/9 yards (mark will have run 11 1/9 plus 100 yards ahead so theyre even)[/size]
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Stormwatch
 
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Reply Sat 19 May, 2007 07:55 pm
Thought 1
Thought 2
Thought 3…. = numerous thoughts


^^^^^^^^^= carrots
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Stormwatch
 
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Reply Sat 19 May, 2007 07:58 pm
eiln pu Question

cluck cluck
quack quack Question

hijklmno Question

pppod Question
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thoh13
 
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Reply Sat 19 May, 2007 08:04 pm
Stormwatch wrote:

hijklmno Question

pppod Question


h2o or water

tripod

thoh13 wrote:

elnsngths Question Twisted Evil


hint: elns n gths

the other one..no hint Twisted Evil
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markr
 
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Reply Sun 20 May, 2007 01:25 am
Stormwatch:
[size=8]mixed line up
foul language
two peas in a pod
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thoh13
[size=8]linens 'n' things
telekinesis
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poise
intravenous
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Stormwatch
 
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Reply Sun 20 May, 2007 06:32 am
markr:

mixed line up .....close but not quite right

foul language Cool

two peas in a pod Cool


thoh13:

h2o or water Cool

tripod .. not what I was thinking, but I like your answer


still out there...

..avi.. Question
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Sun 20 May, 2007 06:35 am
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