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The worlds first riddle!

 
 
Tryagain
 
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Reply Wed 1 Mar, 2006 08:29 am
Mark:

ALASKAN GRAVES
14, 15, and 18 Cool Cool Cool


At 90% the answer is 14, at 95% the number is 15, at 99% the number is 18.
"Spreadsheets are wonderful!"

Your use of a spreadsheet is the same as Rembrandt with a brush, a tool to produce a beautiful result. Razz

This is a basic binomial distribution problem. Given n people and a probability of death of p the probability of x deaths is n!/(x!*(n-x)!)*px*(1-p)(n-x). In this particular case the formula is 1000!/(x!*(1000-x)!)*.01x*.99(1000-x).

The table below shows the probability of specific numbers of death using this formula:

Code:
Numberof Deaths (x) Probability total=x Probability total<=x
0 0.00004317 0.00004317
1 0.00043607 0.00047924
2 0.00220019 0.00267943
3 0.00739322 0.01007265
4 0.01861375 0.02868640
5 0.03745311 0.06613951
6 0.06273711 0.12887663
7 0.08998657 0.21886319
8 0.11282407 0.33168726
9 0.12561333 0.45730059
10 0.12574021 0.58304080
11 0.11430928 0.69735009
12 0.09516152 0.79251160
13 0.07305328 0.86556489
14 0.05202279 0.91758768
15 0.03454173 0.95212941
16 0.02147955 0.97360896
17 0.01255845 0.98616742
18 0.00692759 0.99309501
19 0.00361663 0.99671164
20 0.00179188 0.99850352



The table shows that if 14 graves were dug then the probability of not running out would be 0.91758768 (the smallest number greater or equal to 90%). So they must dig 14 graves to have a 90% of not running out. To have a 95% chance they must dig 15 and to have a 99% chance they must dig 18.


Normal Distribution Solution
We can expect that the number of deaths to approximate a normal distribution curve. The mean is 1000*.01=10. The standard deviation is (1000*(.01)*(.99))1/2 =~ 3.1464 . Let g be the number of graves such that the probability of running out is less than 90%. Let d be the number of deaths.

Pr(d <= g+.5) = 0.90 (The 0.5 is added because the number of deaths must be an integer)
Pr(d-9.5 <= g-10) = 0.90
Pr((d-9.5)/3.1464 <= (g-10)/3.1464) = 0.90
Pr(Z <= (g-9.5)/3.1464) = 0.90
(g-9.5)/3.1464 = 1.28
g =~ 13.527

The number of graves must be an integer, thus we round up to 14.



RANDOM NUMBERS
If I had to guess, I would have guessed e, since it pops up everywhere and seems to be in the ballpark. I came up with a method (it involves computing the volumes of hypercubes with corners cut off) that yields e. Cool Cool I didn't get past a 3-D cube, but extrapolated what seemed to be the pattern for the formula.


Eeeek! Why is life so unfair? Your guesses are better than my answers. Are you sure Shari is not giving you a helping hand? Laughing



The answer is e = ~ 2.7182818


Lets rephrase the question to a more general case, what is the expected number needed for the sum to exceed x, where x<=1?
Obviously at least one number will be needed. If the first number is less than x then another will need to be drawn with a lesser total needed to finish.
So E(x) = 1 + integral from 0 to x of E(y) dy.
Take the derivative of both sides...
E'(x) = E(x)
What function is a derivative of itself? E^x of course! So the answer is e^1 = e.

caravan > raven Razz


"Try's wishin' he was Orville Reddenbacher" Shocked


I learned of his death when I had CNN on TV in the background. Bernard Shaw came on and reported Orville Reddenbacher had died. In his lifetime Orville had found a way to grow better Corn to make better Popcorn. He died Mid-September, 1995 of natural causes in his California condominium. He choked to death on a competitor's Popcorn while entertaining several bikini clad women in his hot tub. In keeping with his family's wishes, his remains were micro waved on high for three minutes.

What! Three minutes, I would hardly be warmed up. Plus the girls in the hot tub seem a trifle overdressed. However, there are worse ways to go. Laughing

Shari wrote of Jane Austin novel "Emma". I could read her books all day, such polite gentle times.



ABCDE * 4 = EDCBA. Solve for A,B,C,D, and E where each is a unique integer from 0 to 9 Question
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markr
 
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Reply Wed 1 Mar, 2006 09:58 am
"Are you sure Shari is not giving you a helping hand?"

There may have been some pillow talk. Embarrassed
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Wed 1 Mar, 2006 11:00 am
"There may have been some pillow talk." Shocked

OMG I knew it! No wonder you had other things to occupy your mind, and other bits, still waters do run deep.
Good for you Romeo I was sure all those walks in the National Parks to study Squirrels was a bluff. Laughing
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shari6905
 
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Reply Wed 1 Mar, 2006 12:07 pm
Ah Mark I see you let our little secret out!! While I love to listen, next time, do let me get a word in would you? Try, lets me talk......


I just watched the new Pride and Predjudice movie as well, Try. It was fantastic!!
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Wed 1 Mar, 2006 12:38 pm
Ok, you have read the book and seen the movie, so wadda know?



Question 1:

Everyone who has read 'Pride and Prejudice' knows that Mr. Bennet is partial to his daughter, Elizabeth. Which trait of character does he say in the first chapter of the book that she, and not her sisters, possess Question

Quickness
good humour
handsomeness
charm


Question 2:

What does Mrs. Bennet accuse Mr. Bennet of having no compassion for Question

her nerves
his daughter's suitors
his daughters
their financial state



Question 3:

Who is the tallest of the five Bennet girls Question

Lydia
Elizabeth
Mary
Jane
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shari6905
 
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Reply Wed 1 Mar, 2006 01:01 pm
I have never read it Embarrassed
Nor have I read any Jane Austin novel Embarrassed
I watch the movies because the books are too expensive and nobody turns Jane into a thrift store.


BUT!!

I will guess

Quickness
Nerves
Jane


Am I close?
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markr
 
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Reply Wed 1 Mar, 2006 02:19 pm
"Try, lets me talk......" Shocked

You two-timing hussy! Mad Crying or Very sad

Adios. I'm going back to California.
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shari6905
 
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Reply Wed 1 Mar, 2006 02:24 pm
Dont be all butt hurt about it Mark. Go see a shrink. You know our pillow talk means a lot to me!! DONT GO!!
Ok I got the psycho ex girlfriend out of me, shall we carry on?

You know we could live perfectly normal soap opera lives just by chatting to eachother on line for the rest of our lives?
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Wed 1 Mar, 2006 04:05 pm
Wow! You are good Cool …

Quickness Razz
Nerves Razz
Jane (Lydia)


Question 4:

After hearing his wife prattle on about a recent ball, and who had danced with whom, what did Mr. Bennet say he wished had happened to Mr. Bingley? Question

That he had sprained his ankle in the first dance
That he had only danced with his sisters
That he had never moved to Netherfield
That he had become sick and cancelled the ball



Question 5:

After a ball , the Bennet's were discussing Mr. Darcy's character with their neighbors the Lucas'. Elizabeth said of Darcy, 'I could have easily have forgiven his pride, if he had not_________.' Question

'embarrassed Jane.'
'been so insulting.'
'been so rude.'
'mortified mine.'



"Dont be all butt hurt about it Mark"

Exactly how did Mark hurt his butt?
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shari6905
 
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Reply Wed 1 Mar, 2006 04:48 pm
Butt hurt is like when you hurt an animal and it slinks away and doesnt forget the feeling. So, the worst kind of hurt is "butt hurt".
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Wed 1 Mar, 2006 05:13 pm
Mark; please accept my deepest sympathy.


WEAR
POLKA DOT


Not guilty stander



M CE
M CE
M CE
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shari6905
 
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Reply Wed 1 Mar, 2006 05:16 pm
Polka dot underwear.....no thanks
not a guilty bystander
3 blind mice....we did this one.

Arent you even gonna try to guess my left over riddles?
You should change your name from Tryagain to Giveup. Razz
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Wed 1 Mar, 2006 05:34 pm
OUCH! If only you knew, I am turning grey trying to come up with an answer. Just give me a bit more time - please!
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shari6905
 
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Reply Wed 1 Mar, 2006 06:27 pm
Im just joshing ya! I love your name and now I see it everywhere. I just bought some lotto and on the bottom it had a bonus scratch off and after I scratched it, it saud Try Again! I was so pissed at you!
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shari6905
 
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Reply Wed 1 Mar, 2006 06:31 pm
little LARGE
little LARGE
little little
little LARGE hint: there are 2 sides to this riddle

Either Whey or weigh Hint: Song by Blondie

CH POORRI Hint: Motto from a movie w/ Christian Slater and Laurence Fishburn


EgIoGgHoT EgIoGgHoT
EgIoGgHoT EgIoGgHoT hint: mathematical equation
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Wed 1 Mar, 2006 07:12 pm
At last…

"Either Whey or weigh"

[size=7]One way or another, I'm gonna find ya' ; Blondie [/size]

Two to go!
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markr
 
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Reply Wed 1 Mar, 2006 09:26 pm
Hey! I had "one way or the other" back on Tuesday morning.
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dadpad
 
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Reply Thu 2 Mar, 2006 12:49 am
Not guilty stander
Innocent bystander


Im a member of the outback club
boy from the bush comin in from the scrub
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lmur
 
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Reply Thu 2 Mar, 2006 03:19 am
shari6905 wrote:


EgIoGgHoT EgIoGgHoT
EgIoGgHoT EgIoGgHoT hint: mathematical equation


2 goes into eight 4 times?
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Thu 2 Mar, 2006 08:33 am
Shari wrote, "after I scratched it…"

Don't scratch it, or it will never get better.

Mark wrote, "Hey! I had "one way or the other" back on Tuesday morning."

Will you two get a room!!!


Dadpad wrote, "Innocent bystander"
Yeah, like Clyde Barrow


EgIoGgHoT EgIoGgHoT
EgIoGgHoT EgIoGgHoT hint: mathematical equation

Imur wrote, "2 goes into eight 4 times?"

That is the best answer yet. However, the last time I thought you had it, you know who said no. So, I will just wait and watch.



TUNNELIGHT


TDHOEEUGHPT



+BB -BB...?



It is good to see yesterdays problem will remain for posterity, how about:


Mark and Shari each have marble collections. The number in Mark's collection in a square number (1,4,9,16, etc). Mark says to Shari, "If you give me all your marbles I'll still have a square number." Shari replies, "If you gave me the number in my collection you would still be left with an even square.

What is the least number of marbles Mark has Question
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