djjd62
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jan, 2012 06:36 am
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
XXSpadeMasterXX wrote:
People who hear voices who tell them to kill is not of God


but what if the voice was telling you to kill satan

or the pope

or joel osteen

that might be god
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jan, 2012 07:27 am
@djjd62,
How????
Cyracuz
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jan, 2012 07:36 am
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
This is like arguing with a drunk person about him being drunk while he is insisting that he isn't drunk.
djjd62
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jan, 2012 07:47 am
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
is there humour in heaven?
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jan, 2012 09:06 am
@djjd62,
Yes....
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jan, 2012 09:12 am
@Cyracuz,
Quote:
This is like arguing with a drunk person about him being drunk while he is insisting that he isn't drunk.

Did anyone say you had to stay??

If your choosing to stay, and are not forced, and it's insanity your hearing...than why do you keep responding?? Are you not smart enough to walk away?? Why do you believe it is your mission to try to change me?? What is your purpose being here? Why are you not living your life to the fullest, since it's your only one, rather than arguing with believers, if there is no plausibility in what they say??
djjd62
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jan, 2012 09:37 am
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
XXSpadeMasterXX wrote:
and it's insanity your hearing...than why do you keep responding??


because lunatics make for great entertainment
djjd62
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jan, 2012 09:39 am
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
then why do you seem humourless
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Cyracuz
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jan, 2012 11:26 am
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
No one said I have to stay. I choose to.

Here's what I'm thinking:
If you claim to receive commands from god in the form of a voice in your head, I am inclined to think you have some kind of issue.
If you say "I hear god's voice" as a metaphor, I can actually relate to that.

I get asked sometimes if I believe in god. I usually say that I don't, because the people asking will think that I believe in god as they understand god.
But when I read the bible or any religious text about god, I have little difficulty with interpreting it so it doesn't contradict other things I know about life and the universe from more empirical sources. I understand what the bible says about this in the context of the day and age I live in. That includes modern science and modern social context. I understand that thinking of god as "he" is anthropomorphism.
There is nothing that is not god, and everything we refer to as reality is merely the expression of this single unity of everything. God, Allah, Brahman, Om, Unified Field, Krishna or any explanation concerning Everything and Origins are merely metaphors we mentally evoke to experience the fundamental unity of existence.
So when someone says they hear the voice of god in their head, I think that maybe they have alienated themselves from a part of their own psyche, and perceive that part as a different entity.
But if we speak metaphorically, and we say that the thoughts we experience are god's thoughts, expressions of this single unity of everything, I can relate to and even appreciate a statement like "I hear god's voice".
But you seem to mean in literally, as if God is an actual entity with a plan, and a direct line to your mental "ear".
What's the next step? Do you think that you are free from the responsibility of the things the voice tells you to say and do? Or do you still feel that you are responsible for everything that comes out of your mouth?
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jan, 2012 11:38 am
@djjd62,
Quote:
because lunatics make for great entertainment

Does that include atheists as well?? Wink Wink Wink Very Happy Mr. Green Mr. Green

Quote:
then why do you seem humorless?

Because it is often hard to discern between jokes, and slanders...

Do you like my humor above?? Wink Wink Mr. Green

Cyracuz
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jan, 2012 11:40 am
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
Quote:
Does that include atheists as well??


Yes
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XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jan, 2012 11:51 am
@Cyracuz,
Quote:
Do you think that you are free from the responsibility of the things the voice tells you to say and do?

It depends On what I hear, and what is actually being said...I also hear from deceased ones...In which it is usually for a beneficial reason...In which their isn't really a responsibility, just whether I wish to listen or not...I also can hear the Devil...And it is my responsibility to reject what he is saying to me...As far as God, When I can feel it is God, and I can not fully describe it...It is a compulsion beyond your own recognition...There is no real way to hear it, and not act responsible toward it in response...And it is not a forcing method...Like I said, it can't fully be summed up, unless you felt it...It is fearfulness of rejecting it, knowing it's right for you, and in return, admiration, and pleasant feelings when you follow and obey God...Sometimes, they are tests...in which you don't know the right or wrong answer unless you test it...and if your prudent enough, you always do the right things in those circumstances....

Quote:
Or do you still feel that you are responsible for everything that comes out of your mouth?

I am responsible like everyone else is...For I could hear the Spirit, and tell someone directly otherwise if I wanted too...But I have a feeling, the Spirit is ten millions steps ahead of that, and would not even speak, to me, to speak to others if I started doing that...

In short, somethings are my own thoughts and actions...Somethings are the Spirit of God speaking, and I speak and it is spoken to me...

Therefor, I do not believe when the Spirit is speaking it is me at all speaking the words...I will not say I have no responsibility, for I believe that is cornering the Lord awkwardly, and I will not do it...

If you would like me to, I will say this...When I know it is God speaking to me...I have a responsibility to tell others what he is saying...That is a large part as to why I am here...If I am a Prophet, but kept all of his messages to myself, It would not do or help anyone, only be good for me...which destroys the whole notion of spreading God's words...And deems me pointless to have a Prophetic Gift....
Cyracuz
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jan, 2012 12:02 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
Quote:
I will not say I have no responsibility, for I believe that is cornering the Lord awkwardly, and I will not do it


And who do you think you are, who is capable of even slightly inconveniencing the Lord?
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jan, 2012 12:10 pm
@Cyracuz,
I will not say I have no responsibility, for I believe that is cornering the Lord awkwardly, and I will not do it

Quote:
And who do you think you are, who is capable of even slightly inconveniencing the Lord?

A Prophet of God...Pay attention to what I say, and how I say what I say...and you will see I cover my ass all the time...Something, (me personally) would not be able to do...

Your question answered itself, if you reread it carefully, no one can! that is why I was speaking the Lord thru me, and was stopped in my tracks before I even went down that road...That is how you can see I am not making **** up...and God in me, is incomprehensible, and doing things that I, as a person, am totally unaware of at times...

Cyracuz
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jan, 2012 12:16 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
Ok....

Can you put god on? Can I speak to him while you are unaware?
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jan, 2012 12:41 pm
@Cyracuz,
He could speak to you if he wanted too...I can not make the Lord speak to you, If the Lord Does not make me aware to speak to you, then I will not be able to speak God thru me, toward you...

In other words, I can not force the will of me, upon the Lord, The Lord, puts his will upon me...To speak to you, and others...

If you were to embrace God, he would be able to speak to you all the time, without me in the middle at all, whatsoever...

If your looking to talk to God...Then You must first embrace Him...He is not going to fall into a trap that I have to be a middle man for the 2 of you to communicate with...
Cyracuz
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jan, 2012 12:52 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
So you say that everyone that embraces your god will hear his voice in their heads?
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jan, 2012 01:04 pm
@Cyracuz,
Quote:
So you say that everyone that embraces your god will hear his voice in their heads?

I don't recall ever saying "my" God...and If I did it was for argument sake...He is not my God, I do not own or posess him...He is the Lord, or God...meaning the God of all...

It all depends on what you actually mean by this question...

If your asking me If you embrace God, would you be able to speak to him? Yes...If your asking me, if you embrace him, will you have a prophetic gift, similar to me?...I have no idea...You may, you may not...That all lies with what God chooses to do, with your personal relationship...If your asking me to try to contort what I am saying, (to attempt to trap God)...and are saying "My" God, and "hear voices" "Like me"...It won't work...The Lord is aware of where your going before you go there...
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jan, 2012 01:18 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
And If I had to use my Prophetic Gift on this one...

I would say given where we came from, where we are, the way you worded the word "Your", in italics, and where we are going with this conversation...

Is that your not interested in learning about God on a personal level...You may be slightly trying to learn, or interested in the Prophetic Gift part...And mostly the way you worded your question, is a deliberate attempt to try to trap the Lord, when The Spirit Speaks thru me....which can not be done so...

Now that I said all that, If I am right, will you admit it to me???
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Cyracuz
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jan, 2012 01:23 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
You are inconsistent in your statements. I think you are full of ****. A troll. Took some time to be sure.
 

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