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risk no hurt to it = will not damage it?

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oristarA
 
Reply Fri 7 Jan, 2011 03:26 am

Context:

"I will risk no hurt to it, the only fair thing..." Smeagol strangles Deagol because the gold is so "beautiful". In both instances, the Ring
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McTag
 
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Reply Fri 7 Jan, 2011 04:42 am
@oristarA,

I will not take the risk of causing any damage to it.

I will ensure that it is not damaged.
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MonaLeeza
 
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Reply Fri 7 Jan, 2011 04:46 am
@oristarA,
I assume it means that he won't allow it to be damaged, but this isn't a common expression, or one that you need to remember.
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oristarA
 
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Reply Fri 7 Jan, 2011 07:45 am
Thank you both.

I think "no" here means "any". Am I on the right track?
McTag
 
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Reply Fri 7 Jan, 2011 07:47 am
@oristarA,

Actually it means "not any".
oristarA
 
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Reply Fri 7 Jan, 2011 07:50 am
@McTag,
McTag wrote:


Actually it means "not any".


I'm afraid it is the same. Because "risk one's life" has the same meaning of "risk one's death".

McTag
 
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Reply Fri 7 Jan, 2011 07:54 am
@oristarA,

Well, if you want to argue about it..... Smile
oristarA
 
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Reply Fri 7 Jan, 2011 08:05 am
@McTag,
McTag wrote:


Well, if you want to argue about it..... Smile


I venture to predict that the debate will produce no victor.

Wink
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JTT
 
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Reply Fri 7 Jan, 2011 01:51 pm
@oristarA,
"I will risk no hurt to it,

Quote:
I think "no" here means "any". Am I on the right track?


Without a concomitant change to < won't or will not >, you are heading off on a completely different track, Ori.

"I will risk no hurt to it, = zero hurt to it

"I will risk any hurt to it, = hurt allowed with no control or no impediment placed as to magnitude.

"I will not / won't risk any hurt to it, = zero hurt to it


McTag
 
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Reply Fri 7 Jan, 2011 05:01 pm
@JTT,
JTT, with all due respect, that's a brainfart.

Please let Ori get on with explaining why "any" and "no = not any" are the same.
JTT
 
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Reply Fri 7 Jan, 2011 05:05 pm
@McTag,
A brainfart occurs, repetitively, McTag, when one can't explain their position.
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oristarA
 
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Reply Sat 8 Jan, 2011 01:23 am
@JTT,
JTT wrote:

"I will risk no hurt to it,

Quote:
I think "no" here means "any". Am I on the right track?


Without a concomitant change to < won't or will not >, you are heading off on a completely different track, Ori.

"I will risk no hurt to it, = zero hurt to it

"I will risk any hurt to it, = hurt allowed with no control or no impediment placed as to magnitude.

"I will not / won't risk any hurt to it, = zero hurt to it



Excellent!

Thank you.






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