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Why don't we recite the US Constitution.

 
 
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Fri 7 Jan, 2011 09:32 am
@djjd62,
No, it really is about the US Constitution - really.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Fri 7 Jan, 2011 10:37 pm
@H2O MAN,
Quote:
No, it really is about the US Constitution - really.


No it wasn't. If it were about the US Constitution, you would think that they would have the decently to be there for the reading they demanded. As you can plainly see, the chamber was empty while the Constitution was being read.

Speaker Boehner and Eric Cantor even decided to have a press conference in the middle of the reading.

They obviously didn't care enough to pay attention to the Constitution. Let's hope that changes real soon.
Fido
 
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Reply Sat 8 Jan, 2011 12:00 am
@maxdancona,
They were giving it more respect than is due to it... Everybody knows its like a hockey game... There are rules; but ultimately it allows people to do anything they want to do...They are the government...They are the law....They are the sherrif... They are the hangman... It does not matter how they carve things up... They have the whole thing, and the people are left little power, and the excuse was, and has been that the people are an unlettered mob, and because we have no political power, and never have had any true power, they can keep us uneducated...

It is the uneducated, the stupid, the religious, the ignorant who have their little worthless votes who are the danger in this country, because if they cannot manage to get what they want and need from government they will attack government and what they consider to be the other side, the intelligent and educated, and liberal part of the population... Hooray for stupidity... Shoot yourself in the foot as long as you can kill some innocent bystander with the same shot...
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Fido
 
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Reply Sat 8 Jan, 2011 12:10 am
@djjd62,
djjd62 wrote:

let's be real though, in the same way the dems suckered folks into thinking they were getting everything for free, this stunt just makes folks think the teapublicans care

it's all carnies and rubes, you just have to pick your side of the midway

You now D; This is our country.. This is a commonwealth, and if you believe the damned document you see it was designed with the wealth paying for the extra protection they recieve from the rest of us... The wealth, and the property in private hands must still support the population, and if it were all in private hands it still would have to do the same, and that is where we are headed since the extra protection provided to property makes a few rich and all the rest poor... In Rome, the slaves drove the people from the land... In Ireland and England, sheep performed the same service... Machines have done the same in America, and corporations have gathered the wealth of this land, but the poor pay for their rights with taxes they were never supposed to pay, and that they only approved thinking it would be applied to the rich out of justice... Entitlements may be a dirty word to you, but if this land does not support us we have no choice but to take it back and make it once more our own... It was always ours, and the government can tax because it holds ultimate title to all... If the government uses its power to empoverish the poor and enrichen the rich because as the government of the rich they can refuse taxes, then they have delegitimized themselves... There should be no taxation without representation, and since the government is all rich and we are all poor, why are we paying them, and why are they not paying us???
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Fido
 
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Reply Sat 8 Jan, 2011 12:11 am
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

djjd62 wrote:
let's be real though, in the same way the dems suckered folks into thinking
they were getting everything for free, this stunt just makes folks think the teapublicans care

it's all carnies and rubes, you just have to pick your side of the midway
We DO care about the Constitution. That 's the whole idea.





David

Go care about a dump, David... Both the constitution and the dump are full of garbage...And why not since each is a reflection of your mind???
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Sat 8 Jan, 2011 10:13 am
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:

Why wouldn't they read it?
I don't understand why anyone would be against it's reading.

I don't either, but it's available to anyone to read at any time, so go ahead and read it whenever you want. Why do they need to call a special gathering to read it?
rosborne979
 
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Reply Sat 8 Jan, 2011 10:17 am
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

rosborne979 wrote:
Why did they do this recitation anyway? I never quite understood what the political undercurrent was that prompted this reading. I figured it was some sort of political stunt/statement, but I lost track of who was doing it and why.
To ascertain WHAT thay r loyal to and to try to prevent the liberals from deviating therefrom.

So the underlying implication of the reading isn't simply to appreciate the constitution, but to imply that the "other" group (who didn't call for the reading) doesn't appreciate the meaning of the document. That explains why many people didn't attend the reading, they were responding to the underlying message of the meeting, not the constitution itself.
rosborne979
 
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Reply Sat 8 Jan, 2011 10:23 am
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:

It may have been some sort of patriotic stunt, but it's not about suckering the people like the dems often do.

Conservative Americans believe, support and protect the US Constitution, liberal progressive democrats have
yet to show any form of support for the US Constitution.

It's mostly conservative groups that promote the teaching of Creationism, ID, School Prayer (religion) in public schools. This is a direct violation of the intent of the first amendment, so I don't see how you can absolve Conservatives from similar behaviors (perhaps at an even more insidious level than their liberal counterparts).

It's also Conservatives who tend to support drug laws which limit personal freedoms in people's homes.

Conservatives may preach a good show, but their actions don't seem to be any more consistent with regard to the constitution than the liberals.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sat 8 Jan, 2011 10:24 am
@rosborne979,
Yes, you should read it whenever you can.

The US Constitution is special, why would you not want to call a special gathering to read it?
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sat 8 Jan, 2011 10:28 am
@rosborne979,
Politicians on both sides sometimes go too far when it comes to interpreting intent, but it is mostly conservatives that work to protect the US Constitution and mostly liberals that work to weaken the US Constitution.
rosborne979
 
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Reply Sat 8 Jan, 2011 10:33 am
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:

Yes, you should read it whenever you can.

The US Constitution is special, why would you not want to call a special gathering to read it?

Because the actual intent of the reading was disingenuous. People (even congress people) can read between the lines.
Setanta
 
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Reply Sat 8 Jan, 2011 10:33 am
@H2O MAN,
That is blatant, simple-minded and dull-witted bigotry openly expressed. If you had an ounce of intelligence, you'd be ashamed to make such a remark publicly.
rosborne979
 
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Reply Sat 8 Jan, 2011 10:41 am
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:

Politicians on both sides sometimes go too far when it comes to interpreting intent, but it is mostly conservatives that work to protect the US Constitution and mostly liberals that work to weaken the US Constitution.

I doubt either side believes that it is actively and intentionally weakening the US Constitution. Both sides work to protect what they interpret the constitution to mean.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sat 8 Jan, 2011 12:36 pm
Setanta is blatant, simple-minded and dull-witted bigotry openly expressed.
If Setanta had an ounce of intelligence, Setanta'd be ashamed to make such a remark publicly.
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Rockhead
 
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Reply Sat 8 Jan, 2011 12:38 pm
"blatant, simple-minded and dull-witted bigotry"

hmmmmm.

sounds squirty to me.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sat 8 Jan, 2011 12:38 pm
@rosborne979,
rosborne979 wrote:

H2O MAN wrote:

Politicians on both sides sometimes go too far when it comes to interpreting intent, but it is mostly conservatives that work to protect the US Constitution and mostly liberals that work to weaken the US Constitution.

I doubt either side believes that it is actively and intentionally weakening the US Constitution. Both sides work to protect what they interpret the constitution to mean.


Maybe, but as of late it seems as if the left is pushing their interpretations to the extreme.
rosborne979
 
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Reply Sat 8 Jan, 2011 01:11 pm
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:
Maybe, but as of late it seems as if the left is pushing their interpretations to the extreme.

You might have a slightly biased perspective on things Wink
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Fido
 
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Reply Sun 9 Jan, 2011 07:56 am
@rosborne979,
rosborne979 wrote:

OmSigDAVID wrote:

rosborne979 wrote:
Why did they do this recitation anyway? I never quite understood what the political undercurrent was that prompted this reading. I figured it was some sort of political stunt/statement, but I lost track of who was doing it and why.
To ascertain WHAT thay r loyal to and to try to prevent the liberals from deviating therefrom.

So the underlying implication of the reading isn't simply to appreciate the constitution, but to imply that the "other" group (who didn't call for the reading) doesn't appreciate the meaning of the document. That explains why many people didn't attend the reading, they were responding to the underlying message of the meeting, not the constitution itself.

You about got it... All position and politics... It is just a formal set of rules under which Government is run... It does not stop people from being people, it does not stop people from doing good, and it does not prevent it doing harm... It sets limits on government which have been the ruin of democracy... In many respects, since the rich are allowed to own government without the obligation to support it, the government will never be able to prevent the rich from leading the whole people to destruction because of the presumption that if some act is good for the rich it is good for all... It is a cotion that has plagued government since the days of Plato, that so long as the rich are considered the best, Aristocracy will be the desired form of government... What if the rich are the worst sort??? What if the rich are diseased and carry disease??? What if they are burdened with every malice known to mankind which they practice on the captive population who are not given the means through government to protect themselves or rid themselves of this sort of parasite???
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Fido
 
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Reply Sun 9 Jan, 2011 07:59 am
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:

Yes, you should read it whenever you can.

The US Constitution is special, why would you not want to call a special gathering to read it?

What is so special about saying you are going out the front door, but coming in the backdoor??? It was all a design to get around the people and their natural need for justice... That is the side you are on: Injustice.
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Fido
 
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Reply Sun 9 Jan, 2011 08:07 am
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:

Politicians on both sides sometimes go too far when it comes to interpreting intent, but it is mostly conservatives that work to protect the US Constitution and mostly liberals that work to weaken the US Constitution.

Take the gloves off...Take the mask off the constitution... It is all a limit set on the ability of government to achieve the goals it set out to reach... It was written out of the prejudice that the rich were the best, and that property needed protection, because left on its own, Free Enterprise would deliver the goods envisioned in the preamble... Where in the constitution does it say the people must be taxed to keep Capital on life support???

Where is Justice made an inalienabout right, and absolute right of the people??? This is not the government foreseen by Lincoln: Of the people, by the people, and for the people... This is a government of the rich and powerful for the rich and powerful... Such rules as they allow themselves over our exploitation have only the object of preventing those who get there first with the biggest mouths from killing the whole people before the rest get a bite...
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