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If Christians were treated like Muslims.

 
 
maxdancona
 
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Reply Sat 1 Jan, 2011 01:37 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Did you read the article Finn? Let me point out some specific quotes where Bauer claims that Muslims are celebrated and trusted more than Christians.

He is claiming that Muslim history, and not Christian history, is "white-washed" (an ironic term given the context). And,he says "If Christianity were treated like Islam, Christmas and Easter would be publicly celebrated for what they are"

And he says "In fact, it is Christians, not Muslims, who increasingly encounter cultural elites who are hostile to their beliefs and values."

At least it seems like you agree with me that this position, stating that Muslims are celebrated and trusted more than Christians, is ridiculous, don't you?



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Setanta
 
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Reply Sat 1 Jan, 2011 03:30 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
At no time did i state or suggest that Mr. Bauer is a nazi. So you are the one who is delusional. You are just jumping in, looking for a fight. That's typical of you.
Setanta
 
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Reply Sat 1 Jan, 2011 03:31 am
@OmSigDAVID,
I don't have to disprove anything. You made the claim, and if you don't want to be characterized as a liar, you have the burden of proof.
Setanta
 
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Reply Sat 1 Jan, 2011 04:04 am
Essentially, the problem is that reactionary christians want to have a crusade, and they've been rightly criticized for that attitude. So, they revert to a very popular fall back position of christians, claiming that they are persecuted (they love to play the martyr, so long as they don't actually, personally suffer). Part of that is going to be whining about how Muslims are treated, in a feeble attempt to claim that they (christians) are persecuted, but that Muslims are not. It's tedious and it's childish.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 1 Jan, 2011 10:15 pm
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:
I don't have to disprove anything.
I 've never pretended to have jurisdiction over u.
I don't wanna supervise u.






Setanta wrote:
You made the claim, and if you don't want to be characterized as a liar,
you have the burden of proof.
I have never had any credibility with u, and I never WILL,
no matter what I say or do (including hunting down and posting
a videotape of him saying it, which I don't know how to do).
I suspect that u already know that I have no interest
in making a good impression on u.

That 's just as well,
because no good comes of convincing u of anything.


I'll be happy if U tell me that I 'm mistaken,
but I surmised that YOU 'd be very pleased
to know that he said that and that he feels that way.

U DO like Karl Marx, right ??
Setanta
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2011 07:18 am
@OmSigDAVID,
This is so typical of you. You make a wild claim, and then use personal invective in order to avoid the burden of supporting your claim. I don't have to disprove your hateful claims, and since you won't support them, i do feel justified in considering you a shameless liar. In that you are motivated by political hysteria, that shouldn't surprise anyone. Another thing which is motivated, i suspect, by political hysteria is your remark about my attitude toward Karl Marx. What is disgusting is that after making such egregiously disparaging remarks about Mr. Obama, and attempting to suggest that i'm a Marxist just because i don't buy your goofy political views, you still continue to tout yourself as a paragon of civility.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2011 08:00 am
If Christians were treated like Muslims the US press would never mention the word Christian.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2011 09:52 am
@H2O MAN,
Quote:
If Christians were treated like Muslims the US press would never mention the word Christian.


.... they would always be referred to as "Christian Terrorist" or "radical Christianist".
Setanta
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2011 09:54 am
@maxdancona,
Hehehehehehehehehe . . .
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2011 10:05 am
@maxdancona,
.... I'm sure they would, but they are always reluctant to mention "Muslim Terrorist" or "radical Muslims", they just say "terrorists" or "radicals".
maxdancona
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2011 10:14 am
@H2O MAN,
There would be an uproar whenever a politician wanted to take their oath of office on a Bible.

And, I would love to hear Fox New whining about "The War on Ramadan".
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djjd62
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2011 11:23 am
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:

Quote:
If Christians were treated like Muslims the US press would never mention the word Christian.


.... they would always be referred to as "Christian Terrorist" or "radical Christianist".



wow, i already do
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jan, 2011 05:40 am
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:
This is so typical of you.
Yes; I am typical of me.




Setanta wrote:
You make a wild claim,
Its not a wild claim.
I wish it were false.
I heard him say it; he was clear in speaking.
He spoke off-the-cuff, when a reporter
jabbed a mike in front of his face and asked him something,
which elicited that remark about a USSC case.
Maybe, if u call the White House,
his staff woud admit it,
if the person who answers is aware of it.






Setanta wrote:
and then use personal invective
I inferred that u probably like Marx, from how u express yourself.
People who speak as u do,
ofen express admiration for marx.
If I was in error, then let us both rejoice
that u do not, and I offer an apology.
There is no need to make a big deal about it.
I 'll take your word for it.



Setanta wrote:
in order to avoid the burden of supporting your claim.
I 'm not good with computer-based research.
I told u that I don't know how to track it down.




Setanta wrote:
I don't have to disprove your hateful claims,
No one says that u must do anything. Relax.


Setanta wrote:
and since you won't support them,
i do feel justified in considering you a shameless liar.
What u feel is not important to me,
regardless of its lack of merit.
Believe what pleases u.
I redundantly re-iterate: I have never
had any credibility with u. It is impossible
to have less than O credibility with u.

If I successfully convinced u of EVERYTHING
that I believe, it woud not do me even a nickel 's worth of good.
U r correct about my being shameless,
but what I lack in shame,
I counterbalance in personal pride.






Setanta wrote:
In that you are motivated by political hysteria, that shouldn't surprise anyone.
It surprizes ME; I thawt I was a mello fellow.







Setanta wrote:
Another thing which is motivated, i suspect, by political hysteria
is your remark about my attitude toward Karl Marx.
"ANOTHER THING" ????? I thawt that the perception of marx was
the subject matter of this discussion.
If that is "another thing" then what was the first thing ??
Look: my remark was cast in the form of a question.
U r free to deny it, or to admit it, as u wish.
Do as I do: many, many times on these fora,
liberals accuse me of being a nazi. I don 't get upset about it.
I simply point out that I favor weak n feeble
domestic jurisdiction of government
and exaltation of the Individual above
the collective and I point out that Hitler
and Stalin directly opposed my position,
but I do so in a spirit of mello good cheer.





Setanta wrote:
What is disgusting is that after making such egregiously disparaging
remarks about Mr. Obama, and attempting to suggest that i'm a Marxist
just because i don't buy your goofy political views,
U use very emotional language, Setanta. Then u accuse ME of hysteria.


Setanta wrote:
you still continue to tout yourself as a paragon of civility.
Its true; I do.





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jan, 2011 06:04 am
@maxdancona,
Quote:
If Christians were treated like Muslims the US press would never mention the word Christian.
maxdancona wrote:
.... they would always be referred to as "Christian Terrorist" or "radical Christianist".
What the Moslems DID on 9/11/1 counts for something, Max.
We have not entirely forgotten it yet.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jan, 2011 07:53 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
How long did it take you to forget the previous terrorist attack on us?

We forgot about that one pretty much as soon as it was clear that Christians, not Muslims, were the culprit.

OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 4 Jan, 2011 12:10 am
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:

How long did it take you to forget the previous terrorist attack on us?
WHICH attack ?

maxdancona wrote:

We forgot about that one pretty much as soon as it was clear that Christians, not Muslims, were the culprit.


maxdancona
 
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Reply Tue 4 Jan, 2011 06:34 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
How long did it take you to forget the previous terrorist attack on us?

WHICH attack ?


Now that's funny.

OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 4 Jan, 2011 10:37 am
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:

Quote:
How long did it take you to forget the previous terrorist attack on us?

WHICH attack ?


Now that's funny.
There is only ONE attack ??
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Tue 4 Jan, 2011 06:28 pm
@Setanta,
So who then was the "Nazi puke," you so vehemently denounced?
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Tue 4 Jan, 2011 10:19 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Depends,

Do you count the political assassinations committed by Christians as terrorism?
 

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