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(The passage I quote below doesn't mean that I agree with what it says. I quote it here only for the purpose of learning E)

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The Communist Party of China is the vanguard both of the Chinese working class and of the Chinese people and the Chinese nation. It is the core of leadership for the cause of socialism with Chinese characteristics and represents the development trend of China's advanced productive forces, the orientation of China's advanced culture and the fundamental interests of the overwhelming majority of the Chinese people. The realization of communism is the highest ideal and ultimate goal of the Party.

The Communist Party of China takes Marxism-Leninism, Mao Zedong Thought, Deng Xiaoping Theory and the important thought of Three Represents as its guide to action.

Marxism-Leninism brings to light the laws governing the development of the history of human society. Its basic tenets are correct and have tremendous vitality. The highest ideal of communism pursued by the Chinese Communists can be realized only when the socialist society is fully developed and very advanced. The development and improvement of the socialist system is a long historical process. So long as the Chinese Communists uphold the basic tenets of Marxism-Leninism and follow the road suited to China's specific conditions and chosen by the Chinese people of their own accord, the socialist cause in China will be crowned with final victory.

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and the important thought of Three Represents

This isn't very clear to a non-Chinese reader, although Wikipedia tells us that The Three Represents (simplified Chinese: 三个代表; traditional Chinese: 三個代表; pinyin: Sāngè Dàibiǎo) is a socio-political ideology credited to General Secretary Jiang Zemin which became a guiding ideology of the Communist Party of China at its Sixteenth Party Congress in 2002.

"Represent" is not normally a noun in English.

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@contrex,

contrex wrote:

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and the important thought of Three Represents

This isn't very clear to a non-Chinese reader, although Wikipedia tells us that The Three Represents (simplified Chinese: 三个代表; traditional Chinese: 三個代表; pinyin: Sāngè Dàibiǎo) is a socio-political ideology credited to General Secretary Jiang Zemin which became a guiding ideology of the Communist Party of China at its Sixteenth Party Congress in 2002.

"Represent" is not normally a noun in English.

Thanks.

But the problem is how to improve the expression of "Three Represents". It can't be "Three Representations".

See how "Three Represents" comes from:

CCP represents the development trend of China's advanced productive forces, represents the orientation of China's advanced culture and represents the fundamental interests of the overwhelming majority of the Chinese people.

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"Represents" is a verb. The appropriate plural noun would indeed be "representations". Why do you have a problem with this? We cannot change the grammar of English to suit your political party's slogan.

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@contrex,

contrex wrote:

"Represents" is a verb. The appropriate plural noun would indeed be "representations". Why do you have a problem with this? We cannot change the grammar of English to suit your political party's slogan.

I'm not a commie. Very Happy

Thank you for the suggestion.

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@oristarA,

one snippet at a time

oristarA wrote:

The Communist Party of China is the vanguard both of the (1) Chinese working class and of the (2) Chinese people and the (3)Chinese nation.

both means two

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/vanguard

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@oristarA,

oristarA wrote:

the socialist cause in China will be crowned with final victory.

it seems awkward to use "crowned" as an indication of success for a political party

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/crowned

The word is technically correct, but its most common associations are with monarchies, dental work and childbirth.

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@ehBeth,

ehBeth wrote:

it seems awkward to use "crowned" as an indication of success for a political party

Despite what the "Free Dictionary" dot com says, its use as here "after many years of toil, my efforts were finally crowned with success" is hackneyed, sure, but scarcely "awkward", at least not in British English.

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@ehBeth,

ehBeth wrote:

oristarA wrote:
the socialist cause in China will be crowned with final victory.

it seems awkward to use "crowned" as an indication of success for a political party

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/crowned

The word is technically correct, but its most common associations are with monarchies, dental work and childbirth.

Cool stuff.
Thank you.

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oristarA, did you notice, I disagreed with ehbeth about "crowned"?

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@ehBeth,

The word 'both' might be intended to cover the underlined portion as one collective group and the words in bold as the other.

The Communist Party of China is the vanguard both of the Chinese working class and of the Chinese people and the Chinese nation.

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@contrex,

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We cannot change the grammar of English to suit your political party's slogan.

Can you not read, C, and if you can, is it comprehension that troubles you?

(The passage I quote below doesn't mean that I agree with what it says. I quote it here only for the purpose of learning E)

You have advanced many a spurious position that suggested changes to the grammar of English. In your defence however, we must note that you were only advancing others spurious notions.

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@contrex,

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"Represent" is not normally a noun in English.

One post later,

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"Represents" is a verb.

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@JTT,

JTT wrote:

The word 'both' might be intended

that might be the intention

hard to know

all I can post about is what I see in that sentence when I read it

I'm not interested in the grammar debates. I think there are times when oristarA might benefit from hearing what a normal English-language user makes of his/her posts.

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@JTT,

JTT wrote:

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"Represent" is not normally a noun in English.

One post later,

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"Represents" is a verb.

...and your point is?

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@ehBeth,

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I think there are times when oristarA might benefit from hearing what a normal English-language user makes of his/her posts.

Indubitably, ehBeth. Valuable stuff can and often does comes from those very normal English users.

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@contrex,

'contradiction' comes to mind. 'not knowing what he's talking about' is another consideration, ... .

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@JTT,

JTT wrote:

'contradiction' comes to mind. 'not knowing what he's talking about' is another consideration, ... .

"Represent" is not normally a noun in English.
"Represents" is a verb.

Please humour me and explain how these are "contradictory"...

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@oristarA,

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Three Represents

Maybe he used the wrong word. Could be 'icons' or 'symbols' or even 'Thoughts or Sayings, philosophies' like the 'Thoughts, or sayings, of Chairman Mao'.

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@oristarA,

oristarA wrote:

It can't be "Three Representations".

why not?

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