I KNOW God does not exist

Yes AM even if such verses did not deal with any claimed sayings or quotes from Jesus himself.

I had read the silly book more then once however studying it in details seems as pointless as studying the myths of Zeus in details.

As far as I know Zeus never turn anyone gay as a punishment and that is amusing fact to be make aware of. Thank you for that at least.

I never said Jesus said it. And you NEVER ASKED WHERE JESUS said it. You only asked where it was in the NT. This is just another one of your ploys, Bill. You were wrong. You won't admit it. I don't care.

You need to learn how to read. God DID NOT MAKE them gay. He let them continue in the sin they were already in. Stop making a fool of yourself.

Sorry dear he was mad about others matters and he allowed them or force them to become gay it is as silly one way or another.

As if he allowed them to become gay that mean that he was stopping them before he got mad against their wishes and he was forcing them to be straight instead.

So one way or another he was forcing sexuality on them that they would not had normally had pick no matter how you read it.

Very amusing either way AM.....................forcing them to be gay or forcing them to be straight.

Bill, you have a nice night.

You to my friend and may I suggest a few titles on evolution you might enjoy reading along with your bible before you fall asleep?

Let see how about starting at the beginning with The Origin of Species by means of Natural Selection, 6th Edition by Charles Darwin

Here the link for a free download.

http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/2009

For the most up to date layman complete overview of evolution both of life and the universe I would suggest Evolution: A Scientific American Reader taken out of your public library as it is not cheap.

Happy dreams in any case.

I would say I appreciate the suggestion but I don't and I'm not going to lie about it. You are not my friend. You would not be my friend if we were neighbors. I do wish to part on good terms and that is why I said have a nice night.

To bad as it would be nice if you have a clue concerning the branch of human knowledge that you do not believe in base on your faith.

It might be a small beginning of your understanding of how the universe is in fact put together.

Strange is it not that a non-believer have no problem reading the bible but you seems to fear reading books base on many human lifetimes of hard work in understanding the universe.

You do know that even the mother church now accept evolution as a fact and not part of the devil work.

The church who is so slow that they just half way apology for the treatment they gave Galileo concerning the earth not being the center of the universe.

Bill I would like to end on a civil note. I see that is not your intent.

Ignore him, Arella Mae. With BillRM there is not even the remotest chance that you could possibly get the last word in, civil or otherwise.

I did. Thought I would give it one last try but oh well.

My a new player how nice with only some 55 posts to date.

I think that's fairly good reasoning.
I actually believe in God but I can't describe who or what he is. I don't believe he is a king or a parent figure or even a "he." I personally have found some meaning in the notion that God, however indescribable, is interested in souls in many different dimensions. Thus, billions of years can pass on earth without intelligent life because many things are happening in other dimensions where other souls are going through a process similar to what we are going through now. If God is or was omnipotent, I think he may even have given up that power so as to avoid being seen as some kind of king or object of power. I can imagine a God who willingly divided into multiple beings to disperse his power once the process of soul incarnation was put into motion. Thus God might exist in multiple higher beings that are trying to influence us and point us toward wisdom. Some people might call these angels.
I think there are many unusual possibilities once you open your mind to the possible existence of non-physical reality.
But you are entitled to believe or not believe in anything you think reasonable. I only care that we all treat each other well.

An all powerful being who created a universe with endless suns and endless planets and very very very very likely countless numbers of planets with life some being more not less intelligent then humans why would a “real” god be something a pre-technology desert culture on the borders of even then human civilization would dream up?

The Christian god even the Jesus part of the three in one god is a small and tiny god not the creator of the whole universe.

A god that would worried how humans worship him or if they having homosexual sex or working on Sunday is an embarrassing small god even for humans.

I've been an A2Ker a helluva lot longer than you, Bozo. I'm practically a founding father of this site. You used to know me as Merry Andrew but the hamsters have turned on me of late and won't let me in under my old monicker. So I Germanized it, that's all.

My my a Batman type of poster with a mask on of all things.

How cute.........................

Bill --- thanks for patiently relying the way you do, I'm sure you are making things very hard for all the Gods - Goddesses out there... to hold on to all the sheep in their flocks in a very timeless Godless way.

This way of thinking tells many who read it how stuck in your world you are. You won't have to look far to see how irrational your statement is. To not comprehend is nothing more than not understand or be aware of! There are several different ways to show you that you are mistaken. Do you believe there are people living in uncivilized regions of the world. For example, More than 400 people groups – roughly 26 million people – live in the Amazon Basin. Of that number, 270 people groups are less than 2 percent evangelical Christian with no IMB missionaries living among them. In addition, about 85 people groups survive completely isolated, deep in the jungle.

“We know they exist,” says Terry, pointing out some of these groups have been spotted only by satellite.

“We know very little about them – except they live in primitive situations. They’re (understandably) suspicious of outsiders.”
http://www.commissionstories.com/stories/27

If you walked up to one of these people and described a I-Pad touch or even a phone they would tell you that is impossible. They can not comprehend how that could ever work, function etc. But you say to them no really I have one I know it to be true. They would point and laugh and call you crazy. Is this starting to sound familiar?

Making sense of something, comprehending it, understanding it isn't what determines existence!

How many planets did we have when you were in school? Do you remember? That was our solar system. We all made models of it and Pluto was the last ... Right? Oops. Wrong!! How can that be! The scientists had all the right equipment to know right. I'm sure they tested it to see if they missed anything! It happens all the time, especially in science.

I will leave you with one more! You can help me out with an answer. Tell me what "TIME" is. Can you comprehend time? Do you understand time? Do you comprehend infinity?

God is real and does exist, whether you can wrap your head around it or not!

@ Bill

Careful, you speak as if you know science and the church but you are displaying ignorance to both! The church can connect evolution to Biblical truth. There is no FACT being claimed by either. If you disagree you may need to return to the books you describe. Science has evidence that suggest evolution. The bible has evidence that supports evolution (mans interpretation) no one has proof of anything therefor no fact!

Talk about "begging the question" !

No. All that "exists" is the relationship between your concept of "you" and your concept of "God".

"...everything past and present etc etc then he/it would be so beyond my understanding that his presence would be meaningless to me."

Those are your words. It's clear to me that you base his existence on your understanding or lack there of! You can twist your words or play the logic and reason game, but that doesn't change the truth.

You ignore because you don't understand! Try applying Gods word! That would be out of character for a person like you though. Nothing is understood without application. It's your choice! Wise men don't rely on their mind alone for wisdom, they know there eyes, ears and hands bring understanding to allow for wisdom!