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Violence and Hatred and our acceptance of it...

 
 
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 9 Nov, 2010 07:17 pm
@Setanta,
Sorry it still does not matter one little bit in the content of the statement given
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Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 9 Nov, 2010 07:22 pm
Sure it does--it demonstrates that you don't know what the hell you're talking about, and that therefore nobody should lend your statements any credence.

By the way, you did just get one thing right. You are sorry.
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 9 Nov, 2010 07:31 pm
@Setanta,
Quote:
Sure it does--it demonstrates that you don't know what the hell you're talking about, and that therefore nobody should lend your statements any credence.


Whatever you said as your opinion does not matter to me any more then does it matter if it was 80 years of a 100 years in the content of the statement given.
Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 9 Nov, 2010 08:16 pm
@BillRM,
Context, you fuckin' idiot, the word you want is context--that's twice now you've fucked that up. If you don't care what my opinions are, keep your fuckin' mouth shut when i express them. You claim you don't care, and yet you've made a complete ass of yourself for page after page. What a pathetic clown.
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Ceili
 
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Reply Tue 9 Nov, 2010 08:42 pm
@Eorl,
Perhaps, but I haven't advocated killing or torturing them, just ignoring them. Big difference.
They have a tendency to throw every conversation off kilter and continuously ignore the premise, whilst concentrating on one point ad nauseam.
But if you want to compare my statement to past human atrocities, knock yer self out.
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 9 Nov, 2010 08:52 pm
@Ceili,
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to past human atrocities


Moving a population you are not sure of out of harm way during war time is an atrocity?
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Eorl
 
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Reply Tue 9 Nov, 2010 08:57 pm
@Ceili,
I wasn't doing that. Well, it wasn't my intention. I was just pointing out the inevitable presence of instability in any given collection of human beings. Collective peace is extremely difficult and unnatural, no matter how sensible it seems at face value. If we were bees, our chances would be better, but our evolution has depended on primal survival instincts, the existence of sports stars demonstrates it's continuity in modern civil culture. Also, this may seem sexist, but I think aggression is more at home in the male community, while peace and community building are a more female impulse. Females inevitably view the male instinct as the wrong one.
Ionus
 
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Reply Tue 9 Nov, 2010 09:09 pm
@Ceili,
Quote:
I haven't advocated killing or torturing them, just ignoring them
And so it begins....
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Robert Gentel
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2010 10:18 pm
@Ceili,
Ceili wrote:
“Once people become violent, any difference between the two sides is essentially eliminated. Both act the same. People always used the same excuses for murdering people.”


So true, many who purport to hate violence love violence directed at the violent.
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Robert Gentel
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2010 10:50 pm
@dyslexia,
dyslexia wrote:
non-violence is a very recent concept of human civilization; it is a very very thin veneer.


No it isn't. Yes, indeed, it is.
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NAACP
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2010 11:33 pm
Don't worry about things you can't control.
Ceili
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2010 11:36 pm
@NAACP,
But you can control your own hatred and racist tendencies.
NAACP
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2010 11:36 pm
@Setanta,
In YOUR mind, yes. Different words can mean different things to different people. Silly willy. Just because YOU have this notion of someone who says ONE THING that doesn't make sense TO YOU, doesn't mean NOBODY should lend his statements any credence. You need to distinguish your mind and other people's minds from one another before you make more rediculous posts.
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NAACP
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2010 11:37 pm
@Ceili,
Right, but that would be an instance of someone who ISN'T violent.
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Ceili
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2010 11:55 pm
@Eorl,
Eorl, you haven't worked in an office full of women. lol

I do agree that it is difficult to achieve peace.
I think, however, that my thought or my premise may have been lost in the fray. I believe that in places where racist ideas are acceptable, violence is more prevalent, more accepted or common. Look at any major city in north america where there are problems with race relations... It is my belief, that in these places violence is more common and there is an acceptable rate of violent activity.
We could discuss Turks and Armenians, Hutu and Tutsis, Catholic and protestant, black/white.... the list is endless. Once people swallow the ugliness, it is regurgitated and spit up as violence and people will and do accept it. It becomes a day to day reality that people just live with. I find this sad.
NAACP
 
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Reply Thu 11 Nov, 2010 12:05 am
@Ceili,
Peace is an idea that will never be achieved. Everyone is constantly having new thoughts......not all of them will be peaceful. Where do you correlate race with violence? If violence is a problem(which I'm assuming it is) it is a HUMAN problem, race ultimately has NOTHING to do with it. Where there are humans, there are thoughts, and unless EACH human thought exactly the same thoughts in perfect unison, there's going to be conflict.
Ceili
 
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Reply Thu 11 Nov, 2010 12:13 am
@NAACP,
I find it ironic that NAACP doesn't see that racist ideas don't lead to violence.... Maybe you could show me where I'm wrong.
I haven't said that race causes problems. I'm also aware that humans will never get along as a whole, but if you, or anyone has racist ideas and put them forward, as a joke or as a so-called truism, violence is bound to follow. Racism breeds violence!
Show me where this isn't true.
NAACP
 
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Reply Thu 11 Nov, 2010 12:17 am
@Ceili,
HUMANS breed everything. "Racism" is just another product of humans. Therefore solving "racism" will not stop violence as there will still be humans.
Does that make sense?
Ionus
 
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Reply Thu 11 Nov, 2010 06:55 am
@NAACP,
Racism will never die out. It is based on the same thing as people marrying someone who looks like them. That wont disappear will it? Genetic survival is based on a person choosing someone with genes that will improve but not dominate their genes. For most people this involves NOT breeding with someone who looks radically different. Some feel very strongly about this. We call this racism.
Ionus
 
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Reply Thu 11 Nov, 2010 06:56 am
@Ceili,
All competitive ideas once frustrated, lead to violence. We will never eradicate competition.
 

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