So, um, could you apologize to my husband for something from 20 years ago? No reason.

@Brandon9000,

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If her testimony was truthful.

Beyond the question of her true fullness I do not think that any of us would be happy it someone we have a long standing friendly relationship with over many years would selected our very worst moments to revealed to the world.

Hill there is no question benefited greatly by Thomas acting as a mentor to her and allowing her to followed him from one position to another so there is a problem with her then crying about his private behaviors that she seem to have no problem with when she was benefiting from his aid.

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@BillRM,

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If her testimony was truthful.

Beyond the question of her true fullness I do not think that any of us would be happy it someone we have a long standing friendly relationship with over many years would selected our very worst moments to revealed to the world.

She didn't reveal it to the world. When questioned about his character by the confirmation committee, she elected to tell the truth about his character. Someone within that committee leaked it to the world.

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@eoe,

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She didn't reveal it to the world. When questioned about his character by the confirmation committee, she elected to tell the truth about his character. Someone within that committee leaked it to the world.

BULLSHIT his character was not a problem to her when she was benefiting from her relationship with him.

No one had the power to read her mind or her memories and no one would had have a clue what to ask her that would picture him in a bad light without her cheerful help in trying to throw him under the bus.

What she did at the very best is a betrayed of trust to both a long term friend and mentor.

The hearing in my opinion show her lack of character far more then his as she was not some poor employee that had no other choice but to work under a boss with a bad character she was instead someone who follow him from one job to another for years.

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@BillRM,

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What she did at the very best is a betrayed of trust to both a long term friend and mentor.

If what was alleged is true, calling him a long term friend and mentor is really a stretch, Bill. If, I said.

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@JTT,

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If what was alleged is true, calling him a long term friend and mentor is really a stretch, Bill. If, I said.

Why? She follow him from one job to another and to be able to do that she must had have given him the impression that she did not view him in the light she painted him in those hearings!

So she was lying about him in those hearings or she was lying to him concerning her view of him for years.

One way or another she is a liar.

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@BillRM,

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She didn't reveal it to the world. When questioned about his character by the confirmation committee, she elected to tell the truth about his character. Someone within that committee leaked it to the world.

BULLSHIT his character was not a problem to her when she was benefiting from her relationship with him.

You ever have an asshole for a boss? You work with him, for him, because it looks great on your resume but in all honesty, does he have what it takes to be a 'fair and just' Supreme Court judge?

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@eoe,

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You ever have an asshole for a boss? You work with him, for him, because it looks great on your resume but in all honesty, does he have what it takes to be a 'fair and just' Supreme Court judge?

So you pretend to have a high regard for this asshole boss not only at the first job but you then talk him into taking you along with him as he move up in the world dragging you along in his wake?

I would have zero problem with her throwing him under the bus if she had no have such a relationship with him that he took her and she went from one position to another.

You see not moral problem with so doing?

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@BillRM,

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You see not moral problem with so doing?

Bill, we've seen from your responses RE: American atrocities committed around the globe that you have no sense of morality at all, so for you to attempt any such a discussion is ridiculous in the extreme.

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@BillRM,

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If what was alleged is true, calling him a long term friend and mentor is really a stretch, Bill. If, I said.

Why? She follow him from one job to another and to be able to do that she must had have given him the impression that she did not view him in the light she painted him in those hearings!

So she was lying about him in those hearings or she was lying to him concerning her view of him for years.

One way or another she is a liar.

Nah. Thomas did not ask Hill what she thought of him personally and she didn't tell him. That's the way many employee-boss relationships are. He moved to a better job and offered her a better job and she weighed the pros and cons and took the job. I've had bosses I wouldn't want to have dinner with because of personal differences, but that didn't mean I couldn't be professional in the office, nor would that mean that I would turn down a good job offer.

Still, there are two scenarios here. Either Hill proved her worth in job one and that is why Thomas wanted her in job two in which case Hill is a valued employee whose opinion has merit or Thomas carried her along for less than honorable reasons and then her allegations have merit even is she is a less than stellar spokesperson.

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@JTT,

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Bill, we've seen from your responses RE: American atrocities committed around the globe that you have no sense of morality at all, so for you to attempt any such a discussion is ridiculous in the extreme.

So when you can not defend her actions on a moral plane when press you fall back on attacking the person pressing you over the matter?

Hate to tell you this but you are showing a moral weakness/fault yourself by so doing.

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@BillRM,

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You ever have an asshole for a boss? You work with him, for him, because it looks great on your resume but in all honesty, does he have what it takes to be a 'fair and just' Supreme Court judge?

So you pretend to have a high regard for this asshole boss not only at the first job but you then talk him into taking you along with him as he move up in the world dragging you along in his wake?

I would have zero problem with her throwing him under the bus if she had no have such a relationship with him that he took her and she went from one position to another.

You see not moral problem with so doing?

None whatsoever. As engineer said, I've had bosses who I wouldn't speak to if passing them on the street but that wouldn't stop me in a professional capacity. What you're not factoring in is, Clarence Thomas was not in line for a promotion at the local WalMart. He was being considered for the position of Supreme Court judge. If you knew this guy was a pig, would you feel comfortable 'talking him up' to the committee?

And who said she pretended to have such high regard for him?

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@engineer,

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Nah. Thomas did not ask Hill what she thought of him personally and she didn't tell him. That's the way many employee-boss relationships are. He moved to a better job and offered her a better job and she weighed the pros and cons and took the job. I've had bosses I wouldn't want to have dinner with because of personal differences, but that didn't mean I couldn't be professional in the office.

Good theory but I do not think it hold up but it is indeed better then launching a personal attack on me as one other had done. Smile

The very fact that Thomas feel free to let his hair down with her to the point that he gave her a knife to used on his back would go counter to that.

Second I would not had follow a boss from job to job if I had a low opinion of him and did not enjoy working with him and you might but I do not think it would be all that common.

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@BillRM,

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Second I would not had follow a boss from job to job if I had a low opinion of him and did not enjoy working with him and you might but I do not think it would be all that common.

What world are you living in? This is so very common. People claw each others eyes out to work with Martha Stewart and she's known far and wide to be a tyrant. But because of who she is and the power she wields, she's never at a loss for employees.

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@eoe,

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He was being considered for the position of Supreme Court judge. If you knew this guy was a pig, would you feel comfortable 'talking him up' to the committee?

Given that this "pig" had help her in her career for years and her dirt on him have zero to do with his legal abilities to do the job of a Supreme Court Judge
her own morals is still in question.

There is no requirement in the Constitution that a Supreme Court Judge be a saint that I am aware of.

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@BillRM,

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her own morals is still in question.

What might be your definition of "morals", Bill? I've never seen you exhibit any, in any posting.

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@BillRM,

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The very fact that Thomas feel free to let his hair down with her to the point that he gave her a knife to used on his back would go counter to that.

Asshole bosses think they are great and that there is nothing wrong with their conduct. Consider yourself lucky if you have not experienced this.

BillRM wrote:

Second I would not had follow a boss from job to job if I had a low opinion of him and did not enjoy working with him and you might but I do not think it would be all that common.

I know this is common and can point to four of five examples right off the top of my head of abusive bosses who wield significant power and control promotions to the extent that if you don't put up with their behavior, your career stops moving. You think you would not follow such a boss, but when your entire career is at stake and the options are to stall in your current position or take a great step with a jerk boss for a couple of years, you might reconsider.

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@engineer,

There was one job at work at where a woman at a very visable and high level threw her phone at her assistant. And she liked her assistant.

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Consider Bob Cratchit. Very Happy

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@eoe,

A fine excuse to pick a man's pocket every 25th of December . . .

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@JTT,

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What might be your definition of "morals", Bill? I've never seen you exhibit any, in any posting.

So all you can do is fall back on personal attacks?

You had no other abilities to challenge my position in this matter?

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So, um, could you apologize to my husband for something from 20 years ago? No reason.

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