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Who decides this election—you or Al Gore?

 
 
Fedral
 
Reply Thu 11 Dec, 2003 11:52 am
Who decides this election?-you or Al Gore?
By William Saletan
Updated Tuesday, Dec. 9, 2003, at 10:42 AM PT

Listen to this story on NPR's Day to Day.

What was that again about counting every vote?

Three years ago, Al Gore, trailing in the Florida recount, urged the nation to wait until all the votes were tallied. "There are some who would have us bring this election to the fastest conclusion possible. I have a different view," Gore pleaded.

Gore's view was that the urge to unite and win must never shortcut the electorate's verdict. "What is at stake is more important than who wins the presidency," he argued. "What is at stake is the integrity of our democracy, making sure that the will of the American people is expressed and accurately received."

That will must be expressed "without any intervening interference," Gore insisted. Elections should be determined "by the votes cast by the people, not by politicians."

That was then. This is now.

Now the presidential candidate Gore prefers is ahead. Not in the vote count?-the first votes haven't been cast yet?-but in Democratic polls and money. In Iowa, Howard Dean leads his nearest competitor by eight points. In New Hampshire, he leads by 14 points to 25 points. Financially, he's blowing the field away. He has already renounced matching funds, allowing him to ignore the customary spending caps and outspend his opponents with impunity in the early primaries.

Should Democrats fight it out and see who wins? Not if Gore has his way. "Democracy is a team sport," he declared as he endorsed Dean in Harlem this morning. "All of us need to get behind the strongest candidate."

Who decided Dean was the strongest candidate? Not the voters: They haven't voted. Not the polls, either: They've shown Dick Gephardt, John Kerry, and Wesley Clark scoring better than Dean in hypothetical match-ups with President Bush. The person who anointed Dean the strongest candidate is the same intervening politician who complained three years ago about intervening politicians.

"I respect the prerogative of the voters in caucuses and in the primaries, and I'm just one person," Gore allowed in Harlem. Please. If Gore were an ordinary person, he and the national press corps wouldn't have been there. The whole point of the endorsement was, in the words of Gore's former campaign manager, to "lock down" the nomination for Dean.

No ordinary person would presume to tell other presidential candidates to stop criticizing Dean. But Gore did. He instructed Democrats to "speak no ill" of anyone in their party. "We can't afford to be divided," he said. Why did Gore deliver that message this morning? Because tonight Dean's rivals will get their last chance to confront him in a debate until nearly a month from now, at which point the Iowa caucuses will be just two weeks away. Gore is trying to stop anyone from stopping Dean.

In case anyone missed the point, Dean underscored it. He thanked Gore "particularly [for] those words that said that the 11th Commandment now also ought to apply to Democrats. As you know, I've been picking buckshot out of my rear end in some of these debates, and we're going up to New Hampshire tonight and see if I do some more."

It's one thing to endorse a candidate. It's another to suggest that criticism of that candidate undermines your party?-particularly when you've got such stature, as the party's most recent presidential nominee, that no other candidate can afford to rebuke you.

"This campaign is not about Howard Dean going to the White House. This campaign is about us going to the White House, all of us," Dean told the crowd. "We will open the doors to the White House and let the American people back in." That's great, Howard. We'd love to go to the White House. We'd just like to go to the polls first.

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Letty
 
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Reply Thu 11 Dec, 2003 01:22 pm
Fedral, I read every word of this post, and I rarely get into politics nor do I like to read lengthy stuff. Some time back, a woman was interviewed about what exactly influenced her decision at the poll. She said that she pictured how the candidate would look framed and hanging in the hall of presidents. Most of the candidates for whom she voted....

WON

And this is my way of bookmarking. Smile
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Thu 11 Dec, 2003 01:22 pm
Gore made an endorsement, fedral. Happens all the time during campaigns. No need to get in a lather about it...
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Centroles
 
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Reply Fri 12 Dec, 2003 01:29 am
This isn't a fairytale Fedral. It's politics.

This is nothing more than a power struggle between the Clintons and Gore.

Clinton pitted himself behind Clark when he was convinced Clark will win. Gore is doing the same.

I doubt either of them believe that Bush is even beatable. I vehemently disagree but most Americans don't seem to share this view quite yet.

But whoever it is that pulls out ahead, Clark or Dean for the nomination, will decide who'll be the unofficial leader of the Democratic party for the next four years, Gore or Clinton. And that'll play right into who will run in 2008, Al or Hillary.

As many of you may have just now realized, I'm not just cynical of Bush. I'm cynical of politicians in general. The only one I remotely trust is McCain.
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Turner 727
 
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Reply Fri 12 Dec, 2003 01:33 am
Of course Gore doesn't think Bush is beatable. If Gore thought he could win, he'd be running. No, what he's doing is setting himself up to run in '08 after he doesn't have to worry about Bush.

Not really as fond of Bush as I was six month ago. I'm not sure what soured me to him. More like I woke up one morning and it was all 'bleh'. .. So I'm not sure how I'm voting yet. It really depends who the Dems put up, and while there are somethings I agree with about Dean, I'm not convinced he's any better the Dubya.
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gozmo
 
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Reply Thu 18 Dec, 2003 07:18 am
A lot of people think Gore lost because Bush rigged Florida. Not true. Bush won because he is more closely related to the British Royal Family. The Dems need only pick a candidate related more closely to Liz than George. This strategy has a perfect record.

This response is my way of saying that again Fedral is talking baloney.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Thu 18 Dec, 2003 07:26 am
Gore is entitled to back whom he pleases, for whatever reasons he has. If powerful Democrats choose to line up in single file behind him, well...................
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Thu 18 Dec, 2003 08:06 am
gozmo wrote:
A lot of people think Gore lost because Bush rigged Florida. Not true. Bush won because he is more closely related to the British Royal Family. The Dems need only pick a candidate related more closely to Liz than George. This strategy has a perfect record.


Laughing
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Brand X
 
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Reply Thu 18 Dec, 2003 08:18 am
I'm going to vote for Clark, because Madonna endorsed him. Rolling Eyes
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 18 Dec, 2003 08:25 am
D'artagnan wrote:
Gore made an endorsement, fedral. Happens all the time during campaigns. No need to get in a lather about it...



:wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:

Couldn't say it any better, so I won't even bother to try.
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Fedral
 
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Reply Thu 18 Dec, 2003 09:54 am
I thought it was a hell of a slap in the face to the man he chose as his running mate in the 2000 election.

If I were Lieberman I would have been pissed that Gore didn't talk to me about it before he did it.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 18 Dec, 2003 10:21 am
Fedral wrote:
I thought it was a hell of a slap in the face to the man he chose as his running mate in the 2000 election.

If I were Lieberman I would have been pissed that Gore didn't talk to me about it before he did it.


I get your point, but **** happens!

If this is the worst personal insult Lieberman has ever received at the hands of a "political friend or crony" -- he is a very, very lucky man indeed.
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roger
 
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Reply Thu 18 Dec, 2003 10:23 am
That's okay, Letty. I just don't want one who's picture looks like a natural to be hanging in the post office. Any suggestions?
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 18 Dec, 2003 10:23 am
By the way -- the bottom-line message that Gore was sending...

...stop wasting ammunition on intended friendly fire and save as much as possible for the enemy...

...is one that makes lots of sense to me.

I think he borrowed it from Ronald Reagan...and his "eleventh commandment."
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Letty
 
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Reply Thu 18 Dec, 2003 11:39 am
He he, Roger, Frank would look good framed. Are you wearing your wire?

Actually, I'm in a "throw the bums out" mood. I'll keep reading and watching, and then vote democratic. Smile
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