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Is the sentence okay?

 
 
Reply Wed 8 Sep, 2010 08:48 am
Good good study,day day up.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Wed 8 Sep, 2010 08:50 am
@oristarA,
I'm afraid I don't understand what meaning you're trying to convey, so I would not consider this sentence to be "OK."
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contrex
 
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Reply Wed 8 Sep, 2010 10:44 am
Is it technically a "sentence" at all?
oristarA
 
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Reply Wed 8 Sep, 2010 07:54 pm
Thank you both.

Me too didn't think it was a sentence either.

What the "sentence" intended to convey is:

Study well and make progress everyday.

Can we convey it as:

Good good study, up up everyday? Wink

Why use this form of expression? The purpose is to rhyme with its original Chinese.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 8 Sep, 2010 09:08 pm
@contrex,
It has a noun and a verb; must be a sentence. LOL
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 8 Sep, 2010 09:09 pm
Can you translate that for us?
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oristarA
 
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Reply Thu 9 Sep, 2010 09:19 pm
I wonder whether the word "up" there is offensive.
contrex
 
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Reply Fri 10 Sep, 2010 12:20 am
@oristarA,
oristarA wrote:

I wonder whether the word "up" there is offensive.


No. (Why?) But, OristarA, I have to tell you that even for very skilled expert native speakers, creating catchy slogans that "work" well is considered very difficult indeed, and people that have this ability often get well paid jobs with advertising agencies. Your slogans: "Good good study,day day up." and "Good good study, up up everyday" have, to this native speaker, a very strong air of having been produced by either a foreigner in the first stages of learning English, or a child. Note that "everyday" means "ordinary, not special" whereas if you wish to convey the meaning of "each day", you write "every day" (2 words).

Also I feel that your requirement for your slogan to "rhyme with the original Chinese" is mistaken. Successful language learning requires that you let go of the familiar native language and its crutches. You will never be a good swimmer if you always hold on to the side of the pool.
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oristarA
 
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Reply Fri 10 Sep, 2010 05:38 am
Thank you Contrex.

So "Good good study, up up every day" is acceptable and not childish?
contrex
 
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Reply Fri 10 Sep, 2010 01:29 pm
What do you mean "acceptable"? To a native speaker (this one) it is almost meaningless, and quite irritating. How about:

"Unlike the Great Wall Of China, which will stand for ever, the great wall of English will be broken down brick by brick by the valiant efforts of our class."
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JTT
 
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Reply Fri 10 Sep, 2010 04:33 pm
@oristarA,
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So "Good good study, up up every day" is acceptable and not childish?


This illustrates that direct translations rarely work out well, Ori.

Having said that, it is a possibility in the sense that people in English sometimes use this type of repetitiveness to make a point.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 10 Sep, 2010 07:08 pm
@oristarA,
Not necessarily childish, but improper English grammar.
JTT
 
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Reply Fri 10 Sep, 2010 10:06 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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Not necessarily childish, but improper English grammar.


It is not improper English grammar, CI.

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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 11 Sep, 2010 08:50 am
@JTT,
That's not a sentence. DUH!
JTT
 
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Reply Sat 11 Sep, 2010 10:52 am
@cicerone imposter,
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That's not a sentence. DUH!


It shorely is, CI.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 11 Sep, 2010 11:03 am
@JTT,
Not from any English lesson I was taught in.
JTT
 
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Reply Sat 11 Sep, 2010 11:46 am
@cicerone imposter,
The English lessons you would have been taught were pretty much a joke, CI. Those "lessons" were the ones that filled the Peeves threads, which are now, mercifully dead, with "lesson" after "lesson".

But not grasping the meaning can happen to anybody and sometimes, what is seemingly ungrammatical, when given the proper context, bursts into grammaticality.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Sat 11 Sep, 2010 11:57 am
@oristarA,
I find "study well and make progress every day" to be the best you've proposed so far.

I'd suggest "diligently" in place of "well."

Study diligently and progress every day.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Sat 11 Sep, 2010 11:58 am
@oristarA,
"Up" is not offensive unless it is paired with "yours." ("Up yours" which means "up your ass.")
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contrex
 
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Reply Sat 11 Sep, 2010 11:59 am
Only one 'l' in 'diligence'.
 

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