@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
Quote:Fido wrote:
Quote:Feuds and feuding improved humanity but slowed educational and technological progress;
Actually, no. Feuding did not "improve humanity." It killed millions of humans based on nothing more than political disagreements.
It did not "slow educational and technological progress." Many of the so-called technological advances happened based on war machine R&D.
Even in olden times when the tools of war were limited to spears, swords, and bows and arrows, they all tried to their best to improve these tools of war with better medals and to improve accuracy.
How do you come by your statistics... An eye for an eye does not add up to a lot of people, because it does not take long before people get sick of the cost of vengeance, which is constant vigilance and hatred, and so make their peace...
Quote:Fido wrote:
Quote: but the system of law making possible modern western nation states has made educational and technological advancement possible, and also modern world wars of great violence and terrible destruction...
Of coarse, but not necessarily "modern." The oldest schools and universities began in Europe, but most of Asia's royalty evolved from the intelligent men who passed tests to work for the governance of their country. Japan was a leader in education in all of Asia for their population which eventually translated into economic and military power.
What you term "system of law making" is contradicted by how the European nations colonized many countries around the world, and repressed them from advancing educationally and economically.
Going further back in history, the three major conquerors were Alexander the Great, Genghis Khan, and Tamerlane. Study about them; they took over much of that part of the world through their armies. There are plenty of resources on the internet.
From end to beginning; you should not confuse the conquests of the Mongols with those of Genghis Khan. Before three generations the tide was already turned against them, and in part because of the fact that they became more human, and spared life after they were convinced that the peasants were the true wealth of the land...
The Possessed ones, the Mamaluks handed them their first defeat, but since many had already converted to Islam they had more in common with the Mamaluks than their own people...I'm telling you I love all that stuff, and while the Mongols brought an end to classical Islam, they also sped our own technological development... We had the blow gun already, and all we needed was gun powder... But what is it you wish to say about those conquerors... Moral peoples, though primitive, barbarians like the Macadonians always have the edge against demoralized people... And isn't that what I have been trying to tell you, the morals equal the health of the community???
It may be of interest to you, as it was to me; but the heirtage of British rule as very often been stable government and workable laws in their former colonies... The reason more people speak English as a second language in this world is the same reason English is about 5 0% of Latin root words... Conquest leaves a mark, and no one conquered like the British, and often in the most peaceful way, with cheaply manufactured trade goods... Or in the example of China, with the help of opium...
And you should not minimize the effect of Bhudism in creating the educated man of China; nor the effect of war and famine in creating a more intelligent individual... Natual selection did more than make the chinese look chinese... It gave them about a ten IQ point advantage on America...
