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Can Nobody Exist?

 
 
Reply Wed 11 Aug, 2010 09:50 am
Hi!

Can nobody exist?

And, if so, Where?

Thank you, and have a beautiful day!
Mark...
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Khethil
 
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Reply Wed 11 Aug, 2010 10:00 am
@mark noble,
mark noble wrote:

Hi!

Can nobody exist?

And, if so, Where?


Sorry, I have to cry "Word Game!"
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Reyn
 
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Reply Wed 11 Aug, 2010 10:41 am
@mark noble,
mark noble wrote:
Can Nobody Exist?

What? How could they ponder this deep question then?
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GoshisDead
 
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Reply Wed 11 Aug, 2010 10:44 am
I know a lot of nobodies, heck I am a nobody
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Wed 11 Aug, 2010 10:46 am
@mark noble,
Are you saying you don't know?
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goodtopaz
 
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Reply Wed 11 Aug, 2010 10:59 am
@mark noble,
I'll be really pedantic and say that since you worded it as 'nobody' then yes.. nobody can exist. As in, 'i'm swinging my arm out in an empty space and nobody exists there'

However if you worded it 'does anybody truly exist?' there might be more to talk about.
Intrepid
 
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Reply Wed 11 Aug, 2010 11:06 am
People say that nobody knows all the time. Who is this nobody guy?
rosborne979
 
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Reply Wed 11 Aug, 2010 11:16 am
@mark noble,
Hughes Mearns - Antigonish. wrote:
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn’t there
He wasn’t there again today
I wish, I wish he’d go away...

When I came home last night at three
The man was waiting there for me
But when I looked around the hall
I couldn’t see him there at all!
Go away, go away, don’t you come back any more!
Go away, go away, and please don’t slam the door... (slam!)

Last night I saw upon the stair
A little man who wasn’t there
He wasn’t there again today
Oh, how I wish he’d go away
PUNKEY
 
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Reply Wed 11 Aug, 2010 11:25 am
Emily Dickenson said it best:

I'm nobody! Who are you?
Are you nobody, too?
Then there's a pair of us — don't tell!
They'd banish us, you know.
How dreary to be somebody!
How public, like a frog
To tell your name the livelong day
To an admiring bog!

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kennethamy
 
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Reply Wed 11 Aug, 2010 11:39 am
@mark noble,
mark noble wrote:

Hi!

Can nobody exist?

And, if so, Where?

Thank you, and have a beautiful day!
Mark...


Well, of course. And two trillion years ago, nobody did exist.
Shapeless
 
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Reply Wed 11 Aug, 2010 11:44 am
@rosborne979,
Ha! Reminds me of this gem by Shel Silverstein:

Nobody

Nobody loves me,
Nobody cares,
Nobody picks me peaches and pears.
Nobody offers me candy and Cokes,
Nobody listens and laughs at me jokes.
Nobody helps when I get in a fight,
Nobody does all my homework at night.
Nobody misses me,
Nobody cries,
Nobody thinks I'm a wonderful guy.
So if you ask me who's my best friend, in a whiz,
I'll stand up and tell you that Nobody is.
But yesterday night I got quite a scare,
I woke up and Nobody just wasn't there.
I called out and reached out for Nobody's hand,
In the darkness where Nobody usually stands.
Then I poked through the house, in each cranny and nook,
But I found somebody each place that I looked.
I searched till I'm tired, and now with the dawn,
There's no doubt about it--
Nobody's gone!
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djjd62
 
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Reply Wed 11 Aug, 2010 11:46 am
@Intrepid,
Intrepid wrote:

People say that nobody knows all the time. Who is this nobody guy?


one of THEM, you know them, they say there's a facility in the midwest where the government has a secret base devoted to studying the UFO's
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mark noble
 
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Reply Wed 11 Aug, 2010 01:31 pm
@kennethamy,
Hi Ken!

So nobody can exist, you say. NO BODY can exist?
Are you certain?

How can you speak in such measurements of trillions of years? The timeline that we recognise and measure time against is restricted to a scientific 15-20 billlion or a 6-8 thousand deitic measurement.

Do you understand the definition of 'nobody' Ken? I'm sure you do - You have a dictionary inside your head.

I expect more thought from you Ken.

Thank you.
Mark...
mark noble
 
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Reply Wed 11 Aug, 2010 01:41 pm
@goodtopaz,
Hi Good!

What do you mean by 'truly'? Should I have written 'can nobody truly, definitely, absolutely, certainly, surely, really, clearly and with out any reasonable doubt whatsoever, whensoever, wheresoever, howsoever, living, dead or merely somewhere in between, honestly or otherwise, on any level of consciousness, animal, vegetable or mineral, on earth, mars, jupiter, venus, etc, within or beyond the boundaries of this or any other universal realm, night or day or absence of both or either possibly, potentially or in any way imaginable, exist?'

Would this have been more to your liking?

Kind regards!
Mark...
kennethamy
 
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Reply Wed 11 Aug, 2010 02:57 pm
@mark noble,
mark noble wrote:

Hi Ken!

So nobody can exist, you say. NO BODY can exist?
Are you certain?

How can you speak in such measurements of trillions of years? The timeline that we recognise and measure time against is restricted to a scientific 15-20 billlion or a 6-8 thousand deitic measurement.

Do you understand the definition of 'nobody' Ken? I'm sure you do - You have a dictionary inside your head.

I expect more thought from you Ken.

Thank you.
Mark...


Sure. What there is nobody in that car means is that it is false that anyone is in the car: or that the car is empty of people. At least that is what it means in English. So, according to science, it is false there was anyone on Earth two trillion years ago. And supposing that science is correct, which I do, that means (in English now) that there was nobody on Earth two trillion years ago. Now, what could possibly be the objection to that statement. It is obviously true. But just let me point out that whether science is right about this is quite irrelevant. What is relevant is what it means to say that nobody exists. And to say that nobody exists is to say (again, in English) that it is false that anyone exists. So, if it was false that anyone existed on Earth 2 trillion years ago (as I assume it is, although that doesn't really matter) it is true that there was no one on Earth two trillion years ago. QED.
mark noble
 
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Reply Wed 11 Aug, 2010 03:13 pm
@kennethamy,
Hi Ken!

What has the earth got to do with it, please? And 'nobody' is derived from no' + body. Are you restricting 'body' to the human form? What other things can the word 'body' represent?

Otherwise we are left with 'nobody exists'. The op says 'exist' - present tense'.

thank you Ken!
Mark...
kennethamy
 
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Reply Wed 11 Aug, 2010 03:34 pm
@mark noble,
mark noble wrote:

Hi Ken!

What has the earth got to do with it, please? And 'nobody' is derived from no' + body. Are you restricting 'body' to the human form? What other things can the word 'body' represent?

Otherwise we are left with 'nobody exists'. The op says 'exist' - present tense'.

thank you Ken!
Mark...


In English, the term, "nobody" is synonymous with "no one" or "no person". So (in English) "there is nobody in that room" means, "no one is in that room" or, "there is no person in that room". Now, you may not be speaking English. But that is another matter. (It is false that in English, "nobody" means "no body". For example, I might point to a hospital morgue and say, "No body is there" and speak truly although there are many bodies in the morgue.
goodtopaz
 
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Reply Wed 11 Aug, 2010 04:40 pm
@mark noble,
By using the word 'truly' I was emphasising my words.. it just made more sense to me..

But yes it really is more to my liking
spendius
 
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Reply Wed 11 Aug, 2010 05:03 pm
Yes. Nobodies can exist. I'm one.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Wed 11 Aug, 2010 05:08 pm
I guess we could ask JLNobody
 

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