@chai2,
Quote:From what I can recall, you really like Bruce Springsteen. What if Springsteen, despite his public persona, actually has an aspect to his personality that you find repulsive and disgusting?
I would want to know. And it would have an effect on whether or not I supported him or not. Not to get too far into it - but in my case-Michael Jackson is a good example of someone I initially liked as an artist - found out about various aspects of his personal life which I had strong negative feelings about (and yes, I do believe what was alledged about him was true) and though I cannot say that I never listened to or liked any of his songs after that - I CAN say that I never bought another record by him, precisely because I didn't want to contribute to his livelihood and the Neverland Ranch where I believe he abused young boys.
Did it make a difference to him or to anyone else? No, probably not. But it made a difference to me.
Quote:What if the man goes to his grave, and you and the general public never learn of this?
He'd have succeeded in deceiving everyone.
Quote:You would still laud him as a great man, even though he may very well have some deep dark perversion, which he keeps well hidden.
Yep- I would have been deceived - and that would be a shame.
Quote:You would have been admiring a lie.
Right. And is that better than knowing the truth in your book? Or is it the same?
Quote:I would venture a guess that ALL of us admire someone who, if we knew the whole truth, would change our minds.
Yep - and I still think I'd rather know the truth. Unfortunately, it's probably not what's always available to everyone. This time it is. I think that's good.
Quote:How you you feel if Gibson was hospitalized over something unrelated to this, and in the course of his stay, it was discovered he was suffering from a lack of vitamin anti-wacko?
The same as I'd feel if anyone were hospitalized and found to be suffering.
Quote:That's fixed, and there's a big push to have everyone who acts in any sort of rage to be diagnosed for this deficiency. Mel is the poster child for the sufferer of "Gibson Syndrome"
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Quote:What people are upset about is his actions. They just want him to control his actions.
Yes, exactly.
Quote:We all know racists, we don't realize they are, but there you go.
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Quote:We (the general we) don't care if someone is a racist....as long as they keep it to themselves and never act out on it.
I do care if people are racist.
Quote:Again, he may be a asshole evil ****, or, sick with something that can be helped, even if he doesn't feel he needs it.
Okay, so what if someone told your sister she needed a baseball bat upside the head, deserved to be raped by packs of black men, needed to give him a blow job or he'd burn down her house, berated the mother of your eight month old niece for falling asleep before she serviced him, knocked her teeth out and all throughout referenced, Jews, Blacks and Mexicans with derogatory terms and stereotypical slander?
Would you say, 'Oh, he might be sick...he might be missing some sort of vitamin or something.'
Maybe you would, but I'd say, 'Racist, violent, selfish and narcissistic asshole.'
In my book, Mel Gibson doesn't get a by on this just because he's Mel Gibson. Neither would Bruce Springsteen.