when to move on!!

Don't hold your breath!! He's told you already that he's not over the other girl,
you're a fill in, so to speak. You don't know that you end up together forever -
that might be wishful thinking on your part, but none of us know the future.

You make yourself available to him and he needs someone to lick his wounds
from the recent break-up. That's not a good starting point for a healthy relationship.

Agree with Jane. You are in what is known as a "transitional relationship". When someone is getting over a breakup, often he/she will find a partner who is a fill-in until the person has come to terms with the breakup.

It is not very common for a transitional relationship to become permanent. It is simply a stopgap.

I know what you are saying....but all and all i can atleast say i was not a friend with benefits for the past 4 months and i have told him on several occasions to leave me alone throughout this 4 month process if he cant get over her and he will not quit telling me how he knows it will work if i will just hang in there and give him time.....i know that even after lastnight when i told him it was all or nothing and he called me crying and begging and telling me how he knows it will work..and i said dont bother me anymore ....i know that he still will call again...im going to pick up some movies today that i had left at his house but i ask him to take them to his friends house and leave them....i woudnt even bother picking them up but they do not belong to me and i have to return them....Right now i am just so frustrated that i have wasted my whole summer trusting what he was saying and it all comes down to this....

robin- I know that you are upset, but I find it very difficult to absorb your run on sentences. I think that you would get more feedback from people if you wrote in a manner that was more understandable.

my rule of thumb, if you have to ask if it's time to move on, it's time to move on

You can't hurry love , as a the song says . . .

This guy is mixed up and you are pressuring him to go into another relationship . . . lots of push and pull here.

Why not be friends and not put any expectations on the relationship?

He is still hurting, but seems interested in you. Let him fall out of love with her so he can maybe fall in love again.