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How Will Health Care Reform Control Costs and Reduce the Deficit?

 
 
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jul, 2016 12:19 am
@georgeob1,
Life expectancy is based on when EVERYONE dies. If you ration care to the sick and elderly, they will die sooner, and each sooner death drags the average just a little bit lower, i.e. life expectancy decreases, so rationing will DECREASE life expectancy, not increase it. And US life expectancy among developred con\untries is down in the cellar. You're flat wrong, georgeob.

Here's the abstract to an analysis of world healthcare costs by the Commonwealth Fund, just one example of what every analysis shows:
http://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/issue-briefs/2015/oct/us-health-care-from-a-global-perspective

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U.S. Health Care from a Global Perspective

Spending, Use of Services, Prices, and Health in 13 Countries
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High U.S. health care spending due to greater use of medical technology, health care prices
U.S. spends more on health care than other high-income countries but has worse outcomes
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This analysis draws upon data from the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development and other cross-national analyses to compare health care spending, supply, utilization, prices, and health outcomes across 13 high-income countries: Australia, Canada, Denmark, France, Germany, Japan, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, the United Kingdom, and the United States. These data predate the major insurance provisions of the Affordable Care Act. In 2013, the U.S. spent far more on health care than these other countries. Higher spending appeared to be largely driven by greater use of medical technology and higher health care prices, rather than more frequent doctor visits or hospital admissions. In contrast, U.S. spending on social services made up a relatively small share of the economy relative to other countries. Despite spending more on health care, Americans had poor health outcomes, including shorter life expectancy and greater prevalence of chronic conditions.

"Maybe We Could Have Bought Him a Good Pair of Shoes": Why Peer Nations Spend Less on Health Care but Stay Healthier

We pay much more, and we get much less. Sorry, george, thaose are the facts.
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CVeigh
 
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Reply Thu 11 Aug, 2016 12:24 pm
@jpn of Seattle,


It is amazing that people who think we cannot afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, and medication somehow think that we can afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, medication and a government bureaucracy to administer it.

Thomas Sowell
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Thu 11 Aug, 2016 12:42 pm
@CVeigh,
Thomas Sowell has obviously not looked at the entire rest of the developed world, where they in fact pay doctors, hospitals, and the entire health structure, PLUS the bureacracy to run it, for about half what we pay. Nice try, Tom, FAIL.
parados
 
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Reply Thu 11 Aug, 2016 05:38 pm
@CVeigh,
Thomas Sowell is an idiot.

The cost of health care is hardly just doctors, hospitals and medication. Much of the cost goes to bureaucracy at insurance companies and the costs involved in providers meeting the bureaucratic requirements of those insurance companies.

If we went from a few hundred different insurance companies, all with different forms that need to be filled out and requirements met to a single provider with only the same forms to be filled out, you would reduce bureaucratic costs.
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RABEL222
 
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Reply Thu 11 Aug, 2016 06:07 pm
@jpn of Seattle,
Most hospitals wont give you an itemized bill until after you pay the bill.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 11 Aug, 2016 11:35 pm
@MontereyJack,
Not only that, but the drug companies are ripping off Americans. Canadians pay less for the same American made drugs.

https://www.drugwatch.com/2014/10/15/americans-pay-higher-prices-prescription-drugs/
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