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MichaelAllen
 
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Reply Sat 29 Nov, 2003 12:39 pm
I liken it to bottled water. It is ingenious to sell something so natural and get people to actually buy it.

If you can walk into a coffee shop and strike up a conversation with a woman. This conversation leads to a serious relationship and you live happily ever after. That's quite natural.

Hike into the woods and draw water from a spring. That's just as natural.

But, our world is turning into a synthetic, quick fix, everything as convenient as possible type of place. I don't judge as I don't like to get judged. But, I find a way to turn every conversation around on its head. A girl finds a way to make a living showing off what she was given and a guy wants to pay her for her time in a fantasy world type of setting, who am I to say anything about it? I have my own things going on.
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drom et reve
 
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Reply Sat 29 Nov, 2003 12:59 pm
Bear, I'm sure I won't... are there many people who dislike you? I can't see why; you seem sincere, engaging and droll..

If life were that simple, Michael, people would not be paying for sex or going to seedy joints to watch some girl degrade herself for money... which is the second worst way of degrading yourself; the first is to degrade yourself for some man/woman. I agree with you precisely about our world being 'synthetic' and 'quick-fix.' I myself talked about everything in 'this fast food, quick-lived welt' being 'quick, easy, fast, worthless.' I'm not one to force my opinions onto others, but I find the whole thing... sad.
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Slappy Doo Hoo
 
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Reply Sat 29 Nov, 2003 01:07 pm
I say...I have nothing against strippers/strip clubs. What's wrong with beautiful naked women? As long as the women doing it, making tons of money, don't fell degraded, who cares what other women think?
But, I was never the guy to say to my friends, "let's go to the nudie bar!" I would rather spend my $$ at a real bar, trying to pick up "real" women, who I could actually have a shot at picking up. That was always a bigger thrill than a lap dance.
When I go to strip clubs, half the time I'm laughing silently at the losers sitting by themselves telling all the girls "you're beautiful."
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MichaelAllen
 
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Reply Sat 29 Nov, 2003 01:10 pm
I don't have all the answers, but don't try convincing me of that.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Sat 29 Nov, 2003 01:18 pm
I used to go once in a while with friends, and as part of a couple. Setanta really dislikes the concept - I'm not sure he's ever been to see female strippers - so, I won't be going with him. I've always found it kinda amusing - especially if I'm not wearing my glasses - then I can agree that everyone's very beautiful. They're usually not, once I put my glasses on.

I've never been to a club that just has male strippers. Got nooooooo interest in that. I used to have a downstairs neighbour who worked at a male strip club - I used to go down and watch him rehearse as we chatted. Nice guy, but, thanks, I don't wanna pay to watch.

I've been to a few clubs where there are couples stripping. Once I figured out what was going on - that was a lot of fun to watch.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Sat 29 Nov, 2003 01:19 pm
Slappy Doo Hoo wrote:
As long as the women doing it, making tons of money, don't fell degraded, who cares what other women think?


Right, that's the central thing for me. I don't like watching degradation, but nakedness in and of itself, whatever.

How do you determine that, though? I mean, once they're doing it, they get more money if they're bright-eyed and bushy-tailed than if they look all depressed about it.

I do know at least one person who said she loved it and has no regrets, though. (Did it for a while in college.)
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Sat 29 Nov, 2003 01:51 pm
Once on a bet in Grundy Va. I took off my pants and sat down in the big salad bar lettuce bowl at the local Pizza Hut...does that count as stripping?

I assure you they'd never seen anything like it in Grundy before......
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Sat 29 Nov, 2003 01:55 pm
Did any Grundyites take pix? Do you think they'd share?

Bare bear in the (salad) bar.


Good headline. :wink:
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Sat 29 Nov, 2003 02:02 pm
The funny thing is no charges were pressed. We just walked out.

Can't say the same for the time I walked into an Arby's naked in Cinncinnati. That cost a grand plus.

Money well spent though.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Sat 29 Nov, 2003 02:04 pm
(did you notice there was no response to the question about photos?)





Grand plus.
Is that code for something? Shocked
It looks ... French!
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drom et reve
 
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Reply Sat 29 Nov, 2003 02:46 pm
Laughing Really? Oh that's brilliant. When was that?

I've never done anything crazy for a bet that involved nudity. When I was the guitarist the Confederacy of Pariahs, the then lead singer, a man- we voted him out- was bet £10 and a packet of cigarretes to appear in a gig wearing nothing but bra and panties. I thought that he would not accept it, because of his honour and because we were earning a fair amount. He didn't, the bâtard, and it was a key gig. We begged him to lose the bet, we offered him £30 to lose it, but he was so stubborn he did it, and the few critics who bothered to review us tried to laugh him off the stage, to no avail. I soon dragged him off. What people will do for bets! :-[

Although I can appreciate your views, anything that involves the objectification of women is unlikeable to me.
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Sat 29 Nov, 2003 03:08 pm
I had to post a fifteen hundred dollar bond....of course I never went back for court........
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Sat 29 Nov, 2003 03:10 pm
Actually I don't frequent strip clubs. why pay all that money for cover charge, lap dance, drinks, tips, and take a chance on a DWI when for the same money I could call the escort service and have whatever I want delivered right to the house?

It's a question of good consumerism.....
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 29 Nov, 2003 05:24 pm
Used to go to strip clubs when 1) in the military, and 2) when I worked for Florsheim Shoe Company - night out with the boys. Wink Probably no more than ten times.
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Craven de Kere
 
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Reply Sat 29 Nov, 2003 06:05 pm
10 times a night is actually a lot CI.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 29 Nov, 2003 07:16 pm
Yeah, but we had FUN! Smile
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drom et reve
 
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Reply Sun 30 Nov, 2003 05:29 am
I bet that that incident was the biggest piece of news to ever hit Grundy... am I right in thinking that the town is a weird little place, or is it rather big?

I would never go to a stip club- and no, I'm neither 'under the thumb' nor living a sheltered life. To me, it's a way of capitalizing on others' weaknesses.
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Sun 30 Nov, 2003 05:49 am
Hey, don't knock strippers. They are just working their way through college, and will most likely become valuable members of society one day.
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drom et reve
 
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Reply Sun 30 Nov, 2003 05:55 am
I'm not; I just feel sorry that both society and money forces force them to objectify themselves.<br>

Sorry; I've just woken up...</p>
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Sun 30 Nov, 2003 06:02 am
Sorry there drom, I was being sarcastic. Whatever the societal situation, I think Joe Rogan put it best when in a comedy bit about bitter strippers he said: "You should have paid more attention in high school, and I have a dollar." Underneath the surface venom, there is actually a lot of sympathy there.
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