America has Decided.

Forums: Politics, Political, American Politics
Email this Topic • Print this Page

Today is a historic day. A day that will live in the history books. A day that will be heralded as a great monument in human achievement and of American achievement. For the first time ever a black man has become president of the United States of America. This is a milestone to be embraced. It has been 138 years since blacks gained the right to vote. This is so much more than that, this is a milestone for all people. It is a triumph of American endeavor. It is symbolic as well, a symbol of a dream realized. This affects not just black people but people of all races and creeds; that a person of any racial or ethnic background can rise to the highest office in the land. It is now that true equality that has been realized. The racial barriers that have plagued our society have been broken down. We are no longer a nation that only speaks of equality but a nation that acts upon it. The United States is a symbol and a role model for the world to see.

But today is a great day for more reasons than one. America has suffered. She does not have the power she once had, she does not have the respect she once had, she does not have the influence she once had, she does not have the glory and honor she once had. Her reputation has been stained, and we cannot forget this for history shall repeat itself. Our economy has faltered, our government is plagued by bad judgment and flawed ideologies. But Americans will not stand for this, they see the direction this country has been heading towards and they do not like it, they do not like the road we've been heading down. We want one thing: change. Soon to be president, Barack Obama, has promised Americans just this, but he cannot do it alone. Only history will tell if he is the change we need but one thing is certain, America has decided, and she has made her decision loud and clear. Today is a momentous occasion, a day the world celebrates, but the world must wait. Expectations are very high, and the battle is not yet won. On the contrary, the battle has just begun!

-by,
Fatal_Freedoms

Topic Stats
Top Replies
Link to this Topic

Type: Discussion • Score: 0 • Views: 1,931 • Replies: 31

No top replies

@Fatal Freedoms,

any thoughts?

1 Reply

@Fatal Freedoms,

You know my thoughts.

Time to roll up our sleeves and get to work. Time to make this country shine again!

1 Reply

@Sabz5150,

Sabz5150;62229 wrote:

You know my thoughts.

Time to roll up our sleeves and get to work. Time to make this country shine again!

I hope his first act as president should be to create a timetable for gradual withdraw from Iraq.

1 Reply

@Fatal Freedoms,

Good post FF :thumbup: Obama has inherited a mess,its gonna be a long tough road ahead.

0 Replies

@Fatal Freedoms,

I just never have quite gotten it.

Why do so many people living in the greatest nation during the greatest time in the history of the Earth so insist that what we need more than anything else is unspecified "change"?:dunno:

1 Reply

@Musky Hunter,

Musky Hunter;62358 wrote:

I just never have quite gotten it.

Why do so many people living in the greatest nation during the greatest time in the history of the Earth so insist that what we need more than anything else is unspecified "change"?:dunno:

Let's see... the rest of the world despises us, we're stuck in a two-front war with no end in sight, the government has grown larger than ever with almost no oversight, things that were once looked upon as wrong (torture, secret prisons) are now considered to be okay, our economy is grinding to a halt, our educational system is going down the tubes... I can keep going.

And if you believe the change is unspecified, you haven't heard a single thing.

1 Reply

@Sabz5150,

Sabz5150;62361 wrote:

Let's see... the rest of the world despises us, we're stuck in a two-front war with no end in sight, the government has grown larger than ever with almost no oversight, things that were once looked upon as wrong (torture, secret prisons) are now considered to be okay, our economy is grinding to a halt, our educational system is going down the tubes... I can keep going.

And if you believe the change is unspecified, you haven't heard a single thing.

I agree with your above assessment but it appears to me that what we need is not so much change as going back to the system that worked in the first place.

Fiscal responsibility, balanced budgets, lower taxes, no police actions, capitalism (to include allowing companies to go into Chapter 11 where appropriate), minimal government intervention, etc.

I don't see any of that happening with Obama, Pelosi, Reid, et al. Frankly, I don't think it would have really happened with the Washington Republicans either.

Obama's "Change" seems to be increased government intervention and spending, a movement towards a more socialistic society and appeasement in response to foreign aggression.

My suspicion is that the change that is going to occur is a huge backlash against Obama and the liberal portion of the Democratic party in 2010 and 2012. Hopefully that backlash will be led by the several very qualified Republican governors who will hopefully take control of the Republican party.

1 Reply

@Musky Hunter,

Musky Hunter;62363 wrote:

I agree with your above assessment but it appears to me that what we need is not so much change as going back to the system that worked in the first place.

Fiscal responsibility, balanced budgets, lower taxes, no police actions, capitalism (to include allowing companies to go into Chapter 11 where appropriate), minimal government intervention, etc.

I don't see any of that happening with Obama, Pelosi, Reid, et al. Frankly, I don't think it would have really happened with the Washington Republicans either.

Obama's "Change" seems to be increased government intervention and spending, a movement towards a more socialistic society and appeasement in response to foreign aggression.

My suspicion is that the change that is going to occur is a huge backlash against Obama and the liberal portion of the Democratic party in 2010 and 2012. Hopefully that backlash will be led by the several very qualified Republican governors who will hopefully take control of the Republican party.

You miss the point completely because you think "change" is something that will be done for us.

Wake up call: It isn't.

Change isn't all about what Obama will do in office. Change is what we all must do in order to make sure that this country survives intact so that our children and their children will have a decent place to live and not look back upon our generation asking "WTF were you thinking?!".

You're thinking all this will come from one man. Again, it isn't. The first three words of the Constitution, the three words printed larger than all the others with reason, show who must be the ones to make change...

"We the People".

0 Replies

@Fatal Freedoms,

And you're thinking that Obama is "the" catalyst for the change you refer to?
lol

He's a joke. Socialism is a joke.
But the joke will be on the American people when Obama gets in gear.

3 Replies

@g-man,

g-man;63111 wrote:

And you're thinking that Obama is "the" catalyst for the change you refer to?
lol

He's a joke. Socialism is a joke.
But the joke will be on the American people when Obama gets in gear.

And you think that we don't already have socialism in this country? You think we haven't had socialism in this country for over a hundred years?

What do you think public education is? What do you think public roads are? What do you think public parks are? What do you think the fire department is? What do you think police departments are?

These are all things the general populace has paid for in taxes and yet everybody gets to use these services equally no matter how much or how little they paid into it. That's socialism, and you probably didn't even know it because you're so caught up with your hopeless idealism that's been bleeding this country dry years.

0 Replies

@g-man,

g-man;63111 wrote:

And you're thinking that Obama is "the" catalyst for the change you refer to?
lol

As both sabz and myself have stated already, Obama can do nothing alone. The people of this country need to become more politically active for any change to occur.

1 Reply

@Fatal Freedoms,

Fatal_Freedoms;63114 wrote:

As both sabz and myself have stated already, Obama can do nothing alone. The people of this country need to become more politically active for any change to occur.

They're just used to putting in a good ol' boy and letting the government do all the work for them. The cronyism and corruption that comes from that are... let's call them "perks" of the job.

They don't get it... in one ear and out the other. If it doesn't mispronounce "nuclear" spout memes every fifteen seconds and promise to make them rich, they don't care.

0 Replies

@g-man,

g-man;63111 wrote:

And you're thinking that Obama is "the" catalyst for the change you refer to?
lol

He's a joke. Socialism is a joke.
But the joke will be on the American people when Obama gets in gear.

The free market and unregulated capitilism has got the US into the state it is in :ban:

"He is a joke" this comes from someone who voted for Bush :rollinglaugh:

1 Reply

@scooby-doo cv,

scooby-doo;63135 wrote:

The free market and unregulated capitilism has got the US into the state it is in :ban:

"He is a joke" this comes from someone who voted for Bush :rollinglaugh:

The free market has made America great and the envy of the world.
Socialism will drag it down to their level.

The state that America is in? Are you kidding? As I drove back to Lafayette La. today from Mobile Al. I was passed and passed BMW's, Cadillacs, Expidetions, Limos. You name it. All of last week I went into stores and I waited in lines to pay for things. The shape America is in? Please.
Spoiled. Spoiled whining ***es is what America is now. What ever comes to America, it deserves.

By the way, Bush wasn't a candidate.

2 Replies

@g-man,

g-man;63175 wrote:

The free market has made America great and the envy of the world.
Socialism will drag it down to their level.

No, it's UNREGULATED free market that is the problem. Corporations and businesses are entities like citizens, they need to have rights as well as laws guiding their actions. Laissez-faire, is "economic anarchy" it is the reason the great depression was allowed to happen.

1 Reply

@g-man,

g-man;63175 wrote:

The free market has made America great and the envy of the world.
Socialism will drag it down to their level.

The state that America is in? Are you kidding? As I drove back to Lafayette La. today from Mobile Al. I was passed and passed BMW's, Cadillacs, Expidetions, Limos. You name it. All of last week I went into stores and I waited in lines to pay for things. The shape America is in? Please.
Spoiled. Spoiled whining ***es is what America is now. What ever comes to America, it deserves.

By the way, Bush wasn't a candidate.

How many new jobs do we have? How's that Dow Jones average looking? Glad that the domestic automakers are doing so well, too... I'd be worried if they needed help in these wonderful times. Speaking of that... what's our economic growth looking like these days?

Oh, and I wonder what Tennessee thinks about our shining infrastructure. Must be good, all that arsenic and mercury they're LITERALLY swimming in.

It's always funny to see conservatives base how well things are by dollar signs and possessions. Goes a long way to explaining their attitude and actions over the past eight years. A long way.

1 Reply

@Fatal Freedoms,

Fatal_Freedoms;63179 wrote:

No, it's UNREGULATED free market that is the problem. Corporations and businesses are entities like citizens, they need to have rights as well as laws guiding their actions. Laissez-faire, is "economic anarchy" it is the reason the great depression was allowed to happen.

Laissez-faire is not a policy of anarchy.
When executives of corporations break law, they should be prosecuted.
When corporations fail, bankruptsy is the path to repair. Not bailouts that will not work. Re-organization. It works.

1 Reply

@Sabz5150,

Sabz5150;63184 wrote:

How many new jobs do we have? How's that Dow Jones average looking? Glad that the domestic automakers are doing so well, too... I'd be worried if they needed help in these wonderful times. Speaking of that... what's our economic growth looking like these days?

Oh, and I wonder what Tennessee thinks about our shining infrastructure. Must be good, all that arsenic and mercury they're LITERALLY swimming in.

It's always funny to see conservatives base how well things are by dollar signs and possessions. Goes a long way to explaining their attitude and actions over the past eight years. A long way.

The fact that new jobs are not developing, nor the fact that jobs are being lost, nor the absence of "growth" does not mean that it's time to push the panic button. We have been long overdue for an economic downturn. Putting off recession by false props only makes the long term outlook darker.
What? How dare you criticize the results of FDR's new deal? A socialist deal at that.
Not to be too personal, but will you share what has occurred in "your life" in the last eight years that you can credit to Uh, Bush? Should we take into consideration the democratic control of house and senate for two years? Or the fact that the republicans when they had the power acted like liberals in their pitiful attempts to pander in hopes of keeping their cushy jobs by spending like welfare women in Wal-Mart?

1 Reply

@g-man,

g-man;63220 wrote:

The fact that new jobs are not developing, nor the fact that jobs are being lost, nor the absence of "growth" does not mean that it's time to push the panic button. We have been long overdue for an economic downturn. Putting off recession by false props only makes the long term outlook darker.

If you were unemployed and unable to find work today, would you be pressing that button?

Quote:

What? How dare you criticize the results of FDR's new deal? A socialist deal at that.

Ah, another conservative pandering memes he doesn't know the definition of. How about we eliminate all socialism in this country. There goes the police force, emergency services, post office, DOT, *SOCIAL* Security, unemployment, public roads, etc. etc. etc.

Oh, and that socialist military thing. That really has to go, right?

Quote:

Not to be too personal, but will you share what has occurred in "your life" in the last eight years that you can credit to Uh, Bush? Should we take into consideration the democratic control of house and senate for two years? Or the fact that the republicans when they had the power acted like liberals in their pitiful attempts to pander in hopes of keeping their cushy jobs by spending like welfare women in Wal-Mart?

Well how about we take into consideration the Republican control of the house, senate, white house and SCOTUS for the past six? You know, the ones that didn't bother to read that pesky PATRIOT act. The ones who provided no oversight whatsoever. The very same ones who tried to haggle to get rid of the filibuster.

Naah, that makes you look bad.

As for my life in the last eight years? Let's start with 4 bucks a gallon. Mix in a couple of airplanes and buildings (you know he was warned by Clinton, right?), two wars that have cost all of us well over a trillion large, the COMPLETE lack of any sort of energy policy, a lack of any judicial or financial oversight and you get a decent mix of fail.

A bit closer to home... we had this governor... he ran on the idea that he could get rid of the personal property tax. The rich loved this idea because they didn't have to pay taxes on their mansions and fleets of limos. It was pandered to the middle class as "NO CAR TAX", and it worked. Problem was the state couldn't afford it and the budget nosedived. I was a state employee at the time... lost my job along with about 75% of the employees in my field because the state simply couldn't afford to cut us paychecks.

Neat little lesson in what cutting taxes can do. Said governor was given the boot the next election cycle. Funny thing is the "NO CAR TAX" plan never worked. People still pay PP taxes. At least the middle class does.

Whereas that isn't a Boosh screwup, it does show you what the Republican mentality buys you.

1 Reply

America has Decided.

Related Topics

Quick Links

My Account

able2know