the irony of health care reform

Democrats are going to end up paying for the health care of Rush Limbaugh's fans and the religious right's followers. LOL

That doesn't bother me. I'm a firm believer that everyone should have affordable health coverage. You shouldn't have to go into crushing debt to keep yourself alive.

You're not gonna keep yourself alive. You're gonna die.
The government's not gonna keep you alive.
There's no such thing as free.
Canadians run to America for real medical help. Especially when the reaper is knocking on their door. They don't like waiting in line for weeks and months.
The lines are full of welfare hypochondriacs.

Help me out, besides military or road service, what has government produced that you'd buy? Which model car or appliance?

"Canadians run to America for real medical help" The vast majority don't !

Americans flock to mexico and canada to get cheaper drugs for health reasons !

You're not gonna keep yourself alive. You're gonna die.

The government's not gonna keep you alive.

There's no such thing as free.

Canadians run to America for real medical help. Especially when the reaper is knocking on their door. They don't like waiting in line for weeks and months.
The lines are full of welfare hypochondriacs.

Help me out, besides military or road service, what has government produced that you'd buy? Which model car or appliance?

You're not gonna keep yourself alive. You're gonna die.
The government's not gonna keep you alive.
There's no such thing as free.
Canadians run to America for real medical help. Especially when the reaper is knocking on their door. They don't like waiting in line for weeks and months.
The lines are full of welfare hypochondriacs.

Help me out, besides military or road service, what has government produced that you'd buy? Which model car or appliance?

1. Brilliant deduction. You miss the point.
Again, you miss the point.

2. Of course not, but there is such a thing as community.

3. And we run to them for cheap pills.

4. Why not roads and military? Why are you trying to put limits on my argument? Military? That takes out GPS and the internet, both initially developed for military use. Both things I purchase. Both things produced by the government... just commercialized by private companies. Roads are nice, too... makes driving that car a whole lot easier. Ever done highway speeds on gravel? It's AWESOME.

You misunderstood my point. Military and road service are specifically the only use I have for government. Achievements in technology are the results of private business. Often at the behest of government. But, unmistakably private.

The problem is if it is something necessary like say surgery a lot of people can't afford it. If you still want the BEST you can still go to a private clinic if you have the cash.

I am beginning to fold a bit. I do not oppose people being helped through medical needs. I only oppose the waste, the inefficiency, the absurd cost. Everything that government has to offer.
Government "is already" the reason medical care is unaffordable. The last thing needed is more involvement from them.

1. The brilliance is yours of course. I got your points.
But, socialist arguments are always based on lies. Either attempting to paint their opposition as uncaring or offer the masses an unrealistic hope. Leaving out the realities of the overbearing cost, and the inefficiency of anything the government touches.

2. See what I mean?

3. I understand that they are cheap. But why?

4. You misunderstood my point. Military and road service are specifically the only use I have for government. Achievements in technology are the results of private business. Often at the behest of government. But, unmistakably private.

Something must be done the current system clearly isn't working.

It isn't working because too many people that think they are entitled to what other peoples money pays for are abusing the system. Illegals, and dumbasses that take their kids to the emerency room for a cold, opportunist sueing doctors and other scammers trying to take from those that do because they are too lazy to do for themselves, THAT is why the system is failing.

No one DESERVES free healthcare, and everyone in America has the exact same opportunity to get out and WORK for aliving, and get the same healthcare others have. To think that anyone DESERVES a service that people that pay to go to medical school provide for free just because is a ***ing pathetic. How about you pay your way through medical school yourself and go give your services away for free. Or do you think that the government OWES it to you to pay for your heathcare? If so...why? What makes anyone think they deserve a free ride on other peoples backs? That's the very attitude that is destroying the very fabric of what makes this country strong. Pathetic.

Health care is a life saving service just like police or fire. no on should have to die or be permanently crippled because their wallet isn't thick enough.

Often times if people don't receive proper medical care they simply become a burden to the state anyway. So it's better to just give them proper care.

Monetary concerns should not take priority over human life.

They don't, real emergency services are offered to everyone,

and there's no law prohibiting people from getting a job, and paying for their own healthcare.

Or, they can pay for their own healthcare like every other responsible person.

Put yourself through medical school, then get sued by some greedy fcuk and say that.

Until they find out you don't have insurance.



health care is ridiculously over-priced, not everybody has the means to afford it.



That isn't always an option. Why discriminate against the poor?




What does this have to do with anything? This is possible regardless of how it is paid for.